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Old 03-21-2010, 08:13 PM   #121
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Dont abuse the equipment and your problems will end. The 800GS is a bike capable of going just about anywere but it is NOT a dirt bike. Slow down a bit and be realistic and you wont have problems.

Rod Millen the winner of countless Baja races was once asked what his secret was in finishing at the front of so many races. If you break it you wont finish. In a lot of areas I am slower than other drivers but I never break my ride. Robby Gordon on the other hand hasnt got a clue on how to save equipment
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:46 PM   #122
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Well, for me that right there was the problem. I didn't think I was being unrealistic.
The first time I bent the front, I admit, tire pressure may have been an issue @ 20ish PSI. But it definately was not the second time where I also bent a flat spot into the rear rim. I expected the suspension to be able to cope with the bike's weight, and I think that is the root problem. Consequently I no longer rail up roads with imbedded rocks and instead play dodge the tiny-ass-barely-sticking-out-at-all boulder game. We'll see if the new rims and suspension combo can mitigate the damage enough to go back out and actually ride this bitch above a crawl over rough ground. Call me crazy, but I don't think second gear should be off limits...
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Old 03-21-2010, 08:53 PM   #123
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Thanks Scott, though I am kind of a dick... just not to dealerships when in person.


I was among the first to report most of these problems so you're right, there's was no precedence set, and what you said makes sense.
Too bad for me, it sucks because I feel my hard work "contribution" with my RR Photo's and stories of the GS surly helped BMW GS sales. Only to be screwed around for pennies in the big picture by the company I've helped and given my business to for many years.

Potential customers reading mine and others comments, and seeing photo's of these failures and subsequent poor dealer/manufacture support might make a difference in sales considering the extremely high cost of a BMW... Is it worth it for BMW to save a buck here or there on bearings, or other cheap parts?

While we are in the minority with having problems with the 800GS, I'm not making it up, and if I was in the market for a "ultimate" adventure bike and read all of these negative stories it would make me look at other brands a little harder since I'm usually the one in ten to get the lemon - as we see here.

I'd imagine by 2011 or 2012 they will have the bugs and QC of their Chinese parts under better control and the 8GS will be a solid performer...
That's the part about your whole experience that frustrates me. You really have done so much to promote the "go everywhere, do everything" image of BMW on both bikes that I feel you deserve better treatment from the brand. Sort of like Pyndon with KTM, so many people have read this report and see what it's like to really travel on a BMW.

Maybe BMW NA is just not aware of you?


Even without that, I still feel that given the overall cost of things, BMW should have taken care of you. Goodwill goes a really long way in this day and age.


Bayner, the suspension is fine if you weigh ~175 or less. BMW just missed the spec when the figured the average weight of the American rider.
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Old 03-21-2010, 10:56 PM   #124
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Maybe BMW NA is just not aware of you?

Even without that, I still feel that given the overall cost of things, BMW should have taken care of you. Goodwill goes a really long way in this day and age.
They should have taken care of me/us regardless.... but yeah you'd think considering the stats I have on my SM photo account...
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Old 03-22-2010, 08:07 AM   #125
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Thumbs down Don't forget...

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Hey FNG asshole, I've ridden 100K in 2 years to your 300k in 27 years you so proudly proclaim.... SO FUCKING WHAT.
... so STFU.
..... it all old man, doesn't do anything to help the thread and just pisses me off.

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Old 03-22-2010, 09:55 AM   #126
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Hey ChiChi: Don't forget to take your 'anger' meds, it will help when dealing with the dealers!


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Old 03-22-2010, 11:12 AM   #127
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I don't own one, but I have watched another inmate ride his F800 off ridges, up embankments, jumped off fairly good size jumps which bottomed out the suspension...AND ride 2500 hard miles on the Transamerica Trail with the stock rims and none of that has damaged them.

I have to think something else is up with yours.
+1. I just spent the past two days riding the F800GS offroad. No jumps, but pretty much everything else (riding over rocks at speed, crashing it, bottoming suspension, etc.) and had no problems. None of the other lads on 800s had wheel problems either.
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Old 03-22-2010, 05:32 PM   #128
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I moved your little fit to JoMomma. Lets try to keep some illusion of civility upstairs here, M'kay?

Thx.

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Old 03-22-2010, 05:40 PM   #129
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I moved your little fit to JoMomma. Lets try to keep some illusion of civility upstairs here, M'kay?

Thx.

I wondered if that PUI would get thrown into the depths.
Thanks for the slack.




Hey, I'm sensitive when a person is trying to say it's my fault for all my GS problems.
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Old 03-22-2010, 09:58 PM   #130
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I wondered if that PUI would get thrown into the depths.
Thanks for the slack.




Hey, I'm sensitive when a person is trying to say it's my fault for all my GS problems.
I came in late and haven't read the whole thread but my experience has been the opposite from yours. My dealer has taken care of bearing, axle, rim, gas tank sensor, gas tank, transmission bolt problems for me with little to no hassle. I'm not bragging, I had little to do with the process, but I'm just saying some people get shafted and some ride on. I really enjoy your thread by the way and I was disheartened by your comments on the F800GS.
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Old 03-22-2010, 11:17 PM   #131
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I came in late and haven't read the whole thread but my experience has been the opposite from yours. My dealer has taken care of bearing, axle, rim, gas tank sensor, gas tank, transmission bolt problems for me with little to no hassle. I'm not bragging, I had little to do with the process, but I'm just saying some people get shafted and some ride on. I really enjoy your thread by the way and I was disheartened by your comments on the F800GS.

Some people get shafted and ride on... but tell the truth.




which is what I will do.
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Old 03-23-2010, 06:42 AM   #132
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Some people get shafted and ride on... but tell the truth.




which is what I will do.
Very true! If anyone will "ride on" it is you! Please keep going and keep inspiring us no matter what bike you ride!
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Old 03-23-2010, 09:02 AM   #133
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I'm sure you guys have seen this pic from the Jimmy Lewis/BMW sponsored press ride in Africa. Apparently they did a couple of these on the big F800GS ride.

JL posted here on his observations of the F800gs. I finally read his printed evaluation of the bike to see if he commented on the bent wheels. He did, in fact pretty much covered the gamut of issues. Perhaps required reading for some one thinking this bike can replace your thumper:
http://www.dirtrider.com/reviews/mot...ion/index.html
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Old 03-23-2010, 09:16 AM   #134
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Good write-up. I read this article a while back as well. It is an extremely important read for anyone considering an F800GS or F650GS2.... because it's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
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Old 03-23-2010, 09:30 AM   #135
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Good write-up. I read this article a while back as well. It is an extremely important read for anyone considering an F800GS or F650GS2.... because it's the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.
How interesting. When I first got my GS that article came out in Dirt Rider and I remember thinking, "That Lewis guy is a tool. It IS a dirt bike."

Now that I've had the bike a while, and ridden it quite a bit off road, I could not agree more with that Lewis guy. It seems that his biggest point about riding the GS off-road is that the suspension is too soft and blows through its travel too easily. YUP. Firmer suspension really transforms the bike off road.

Jimmy, I was wrong and you are right.
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