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Old 01-16-2013, 06:31 PM   #256
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I read on here that some people had problems with flash rust. I did a test on one of my unused carbs and after less than a day I noticed that the metal ie throttle bracket/holder, idle screw etc (not the carb body itself) had some powdery like rust. It seems to kind of rub off but should I be concerned? Is there any way to avoid this.
Did you RINSE thoroughly with WARM WATER?
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Old 01-16-2013, 06:41 PM   #257
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Soap and water if memory serves me correctly.
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Old 01-17-2013, 10:15 AM   #258
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If you mix comet powder and water and scrub it with a scotchbright pad as a rinse it will neutralize the surface and prevent it from rusting
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Old 01-17-2013, 07:43 PM   #259
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Disposal?

So I've got a plastic tub full o' contaminated Pine Sol. Cleaned a bunch of carbs, greasy bits, you name it and now I'm left with the remains. Is there any recommended way of disposal? I can't put it down the drain with all that grease in there.
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Old 01-18-2013, 12:49 AM   #260
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So I've got a plastic tub full o' contaminated Pine Sol. Cleaned a bunch of carbs, greasy bits, you name it and now I'm left with the remains. Is there any recommended way of disposal? I can't put it down the drain with all that grease in there.
Drop it off at the same place you leave oil for recycling.

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Old 01-18-2013, 12:57 AM   #261
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So I've got a plastic tub full o' contaminated Pine Sol. Cleaned a bunch of carbs, greasy bits, you name it and now I'm left with the remains. Is there any recommended way of disposal? I can't put it down the drain with all that grease in there.

Get two jars and a paint strainer funnel or make one of your own using either a paper towel or sheet of paper rolled into a funnel shape. Without shaking it up slowly pour it through the strainer a few times and see if it cleans up if it does then pour the Pine Sol down the drain.

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Old 01-18-2013, 11:26 AM   #262
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Pine-sol is supposedly safe for household drain disposal - their literature even says its Okay for septic. I'd flush with lots of water.

If the oil/grease can be separated, I would and dispose of the sludge separately probably as solid waste, but otherwise, I'd just flush it down the drain. After all, it is a general-purpose household cleaner used to cut through grease/grime and hold the oils in suspension. You flush small amounts of grease down the drain every time you wash your dishes.

I doubt any household recycling program would be interested in the stuff. The places that sell oil are not going to want it either.

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Old 01-20-2013, 11:46 AM   #263
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You flush small amounts of grease down the drain every time you wash your dishes.
Yes, but that grease is cooking grease not dino juice. I'm going to go with the straining method and see how it goes.
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Old 04-16-2013, 04:57 AM   #264
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So, I didn't read the whole thread. Is it ok to soak the entire carb, floats, gaskets, diaphram, and all, or is that going to damage something?

I have a set of carbs where the butterflies are so gunked that they won't move. I would like to just set the whole set in pine sol to soak.

Am I OK in doing this, or is it a bad idea?
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Old 05-08-2013, 05:04 PM   #265
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I tried this for the other bike, with awesome results

Figured I'd document it this time.


i used the same pinesol strained through a paint diffuser i used last time. So that's why the color is grey and not amber.

Carb before the treatment:




The plastic garbage bin i used, all metal parts prepped by removing any rubber or plastic.


I also made sure to throw in all the parts i had that were rusty and small enough, so the rear wheel nut went in there all rusty and black.



2 hours later:


12 hours later:

notice the black spray paint had melted off the carb!

another shot!


Parts all removed, soaked in warm water and cleaned with a tooth brush, dried in the california sun in 5 min


That rusty gunked up nut is now fresh and ready for loctite!


after 12 hours of treatment, looks like i could have gone for 24, but it's just the exterior and i don't want the carb to stand out from the rest of the dirty scooter too much!
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:47 AM   #266
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So I am soaking some carbs in pine sol right now. And one of the slide needles turned black after 15 hours, the other slide needle stayed silver color. What is up with that?

Also the end of the needle did not turn black, only the larger diameter shaft portion did.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:53 AM   #267
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So I am soaking some carbs in pine sol right now. And one of the slide needles turned black after 15 hours, the other slide needle stayed silver color. What is up with that?

Also the end of the needle did not turn black, only the larger diameter shaft portion did.
It may be possible that the needle had plating that is worn off in that area, which may also be a sign that the needle needs to be replaced.
The needle that did not turn may still have the plating intact.

Just a guess, without seeing the needles it would be hard to tell.
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Old 06-06-2013, 09:58 AM   #268
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It may be possible that the needle had plating that is worn off in that area, which may also be a sign that the needle needs to be replaced.
The needle that did not turn may still have the plating intact.

Just a guess, without seeing the needles it would be hard to tell.
The black is also tacky feeling.

http://imgur.com/nUbY9WJ
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:33 AM   #269
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The black is also tacky feeling.

http://imgur.com/nUbY9WJ
http://imgur.com/Wxg800j
The needle that is shiny, looks like i can see a line, about mid way where it has worn, if you run your fingernail over the line, can you feel it? if so it needs to be replaced.
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Old 06-06-2013, 10:47 AM   #270
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The needle that is shiny, looks like i can see a line, about mid way where it has worn, if you run your fingernail over the line, can you feel it? if so it needs to be replaced.
Damn! I didn't even realize they were worn at all they looked brand new to me. Stupid me uploaded it to a site I can't access at work so I will have to wait til I get home this evening to check it. The bike has about 5000 miles on it and it is a 2006. What would cause that line to be there? It's just a spring and a plastic slide touching it correct? I guess the jet touches it somewhere too but not that high up I think.

I thought I was mistaken by taking the things apart in the first place because they looked super clean to me just seeing how much gunk was in them. Basically no gunk but I decided to go ahead and soak it all anyway.

The issues this bike has been exhibiting, a 2006 ninja 250r, is that the idle will hang around 4k, intermittently, sometimes it idles around 1500 as it should. Also it will not stay running without the choke open a little bit, otherwise you have to feather the throttle to keep it going. Also say you're going down the highway at 70mph, that's about 8500k rpm, and then you pull the clutch in and close the throttle, it dies immediately. I know there's some circuit supposed to keep it from doing that but I don't know what it is....

The battery is also in poor condition but enough to start it.
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