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Old 04-06-2013, 06:13 PM   #1486
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Parts avail and worn out stuff is true, and are very practical considerations but I'm not convinced they are some kind of holy grail, either.
Of course they are not. They are just the last conventional forks White Power made, very briefly, are big and and strong, and have a good reputation for reliability and generally a great reputation for performance (once 'dialed in'). As you probably know, they were Pauls go-to forks for quite a while for RTW 'civilian' type bikes, and if he has found a good/better replacement then that is great. I'm kinda surprised that he would be replacing the 4860's for the race bikes as he seemed pretty happy with them for those purposes.
Easily shortening these forks with spacers is a plus for me. Paul tends to run them long and adapts his frames to his fork and stem length so the DRZ forks would be fine.

These two forks seem the best of the conventionals. Both are expensive here. Both are ageing. You have to pick something for a fork swap. The more people who don't pick WP50's, the better for me.
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Old 04-06-2013, 06:38 PM   #1487
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Sorry Ontic im confused. I thought he was using the 50's and I thought they were USD, not conventional.

I know for the race bikes he wants to have the absolute max travel and was lamenting that roughly 300mm seems to be the limit for a working bike.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:05 PM   #1488
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Ah, confusion, my usual state.
My recollections from last I talked about it, and it was a while ago, Paul used RWU WP5060's, mostly for 'civilian' travel bikes, and used USD 4860's for racing and other purposes. These are generalisations and I am sure client preferences are probably just as important. He used to use the WP 43mm USD, but hadn't had the best luck with them and found the 4860's much better and more reliable. I think the race bike you rode has the 4860's.

I'm not up to scratch on the showa 49mm RWU forks. I'd read about two versions from different bikes (DRZ and RM was it?) one a twin chamber? They are all about the same vintage as the WP50's aren't they?
Maybe Paul is looking into something a bit newer...

Aside from gawking at the bike you rode, I haven't talked to him much about race bikes as that is not what I am trying to build.
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Old 04-06-2013, 07:11 PM   #1489
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Its been a while, now, for me too I thought they were 50's on the safari bike, but certainly I could be wrong, and you'd know more about his other stuff than I so I would take your word for it.
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Old 04-07-2013, 02:46 AM   #1490
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Old 04-07-2013, 10:19 AM   #1491
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Old 04-07-2013, 11:14 AM   #1492
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Old 04-15-2013, 07:07 PM   #1493
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[QUOTE=DiabloADV;18595659]I found out my new bike had the key mods done by Richard Bosse in Texas. Part of the "Lost Boys" gang with Chris King, etc.

Pretty cool. They know what they're doing. This bike handles amazingly well. I was pleasantly surprised.




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Old 04-25-2013, 01:38 AM   #1494
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gratuitous bump for a great great looking bike

...that is running a real risk of loosing its 'civilian' status

[IMG] photo orgsbike_zpsaa69fbf4.jpg[/IMG]

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Old 04-25-2013, 01:44 AM   #1495
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OK rockstars -what kind of ground clearance do you have with your extended swingarms & DRZ/ WP forks? What about the paras - what's the highest you've been able to get?
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...that is running a real risk of loosing its 'civilian' status


From the other side. There's a video around somewhere of that bike coming down a particularly knarly hill.


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Old 04-25-2013, 06:48 AM   #1497
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The best ground clearance i've seen is usually just shy of a foot, before sag. So roughly 300mm?

About 250mm or 275 is roughly the best available suspension travel you can feasibly get and use without completely upsetting the whole bike.
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:56 AM   #1498
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this bike is still my airhead dirt bike muse
I've gotten the exhaust crossover done (finally), for a single on the left side. Moving on to now finish the mounts for side bags and new rear fender. Tranmission is rebuilt, heads rebuilt, Seibenrock 1000 kit on the shelf ready to go. It will be done eventually...
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Old 04-25-2013, 08:57 AM   #1499
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Interesting that ground clearance comes up now. After the last weekend, I find myself wanting more of it. We were riding some pretty rocky stuff and I found myself having to be vary careful about how and where I could let the suspension compress.

In the past I've been thinking I wanted better forks but not necessarily longer; now I'm thinking longer. I might not need more travel; I might just need it to be higher up. And an Oilhead swingarm to bring the rear up. I feel like I was here a few years ago, then lost track, and now I'm back in the same place.
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...that is running a real risk of loosing its 'civilian' status

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I like the exhaust, the way its been modified for clearance.
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