TUbliss on a Dualsport/Adventure Bike?

[955616846]

One or the other...

Running sealant is not such a flash idea if a tyre ever needs to be repaired.

[Wadester]

Originally Posted by milzispete

i thought the dynabead idea was a good one but it got me thinking where was the best place to put them. if running sealent in your main tire then i guess the only place to put the dynabeads is in the tubliss bladder. how much do you think it would take to balance the wheel ?

Dynamic balancing is a good idea, but you don't have to use dynabeads. As long as you've got something that will move inside the tire and has enough mass, you're good. Sealant works just fine as a a flowing mass to dynamically balance your wheel. The biggest issue with this is having enough mass to cover any imbalance - the TuBliss valve block is relatively light, but is heavier than the rest. I recall putting in 4oz of sealant and running 70mph/highway without noticeable vibes. Sealant dries over time, but will accumulate where it needs to be for balance IMHO.

[TNC]

Originally Posted by 955616846

One or the other...

Running sealant is not such a flash idea if a tyre ever needs to be repaired.

If using Slime I would agree. However, something like Stan's sealant is relatively clean and at least equal to or better than Slime. I've used both in my Tubliss setup. Cleanup when changing to a new tire was messy with the Slime and not with the Stan's. If I didn't use sealant, I've had numerous situations where I would have had a flat without it...a nail, wire, mesquite thorns, etc. In the case of the nail incident, I plugged the hole when I pulled out the nail, but amazingly the sealant seemed to seal the hole. I went ahead and plugged the spot with a common string plug just to insure the fix. I ran that tire until it was toast.

[Wadester]

I actually use a homebrew sealant composed of latex mold builder, Slime, antifreeze and water. Similar to, but better than Stan's NoTubes sealant. I had a nail puncture a while back - the sealant held air pressure after pulling the nail, but I kept having a persistent wet spot there. Put a string in it, and it's all dry.

[UtahFox]

Originally Posted by 955616846

One or the other...

Running sealant is not such a flash idea if a tyre ever needs to be repaired.

This is a non-issue these days, there are a few choices other than Slime that are water soluble such as Stan's or Ride-On.

http://www.ride-on.com/motorcycle-formula-mot.html

[955616846]

Did I mention Slime? Maybe someone would like to quote the relevant text and highlight that word.

Any sealant worth the name should be able to seal a nail hole.. .It is the bigger holes that require patching or a tube that become a problem. I suppose you all carry enough water to clean the >insert favourite brand of snot< out of the tyre when a larger repair is required.

[milzispete]

Originally Posted by 955616846

Did I mention Slime? Maybe someone would like to quote the relevant text and highlight that word.

Any sealant worth the name should be able to seal a nail hole.. .It is the bigger holes that require patching or a tube that become a problem. I suppose you all carry enough water to clean the >insert favourite brand of snot< out of the tyre when a larger repair is required.

We are talking about running a tubliss on dualsport bikes right ?
The advantages are vastly reduced chance of pinch flats and sealant can be used to fix against nail/wire/thorns if you wish to use it. Another advantage of sealant would be dynamic balancing of your wheel meaning no more mega weights to offset the rim lock

I'm struggling to find a downside vs a tube set up here.

[seabee1]

you can run a sealant if you want to with the tubliss system, but really, all you need is a plug kit and a mini compressor.

another advantage of the tubliss is running crazy low pressures for great traction. just watch out for dinging your rims.

[TNC]

Originally Posted by seabee1

you can run a sealant if you want to with the tubliss system, but really, all you need is a plug kit and a mini compressor.

another advantage of the tubliss is running crazy low pressures for great traction. just watch out for dinging your rims.

So...you're "that guy". You know...that guy everyone else who has sealant in their Tubliss setup has to wait on while he plugs his tire.

[seabee1]

Originally Posted by TNC

So...you're "that guy". You know...that guy everyone else who has sealant in their Tubliss setup has to wait on while he plugs his tire.

yep. that's me. i've only had to plug a tire twice in the last four years of riding. if that's an inconvinience for you, don't go riding with me!

once you start changing your own tires, you'll appreciate not having sealant in there. water clean up or no, it's still a mess.

ymmv

[TNC]

Originally Posted by seabee1

yep. that's me. i've only had to plug a tire twice in the last four years of riding. if that's an inconvinience for you, don't go riding with me!

once you start changing your own tires, you'll appreciate not having sealant in there. water clean up or no, it's still a mess.

ymmv

"Once I start changing my own tires?"...LOL! No, I've been changing my own tires for over 40 years...and a lot of tires for others when I worked part time at a motorcycle shop for 15 years to pay for some of my nasty 2-wheel habits.

But seriously, I mentioned Stan's because the stuff really works, and you don't get the goshawful mess that you do with something like Slime. I've been using it in my dirtbike tires for about 3.5 years now and way longer in mountainbike tires. For something that really seals a hole, it is amazingly clean stuff. I agree that because of the way the inner liner seals the tire bead, a plug fix works wonders on the trail because you don't have to worry about a quick, high volume air supply to seat the bead. Still, when I've changed the many tires over that 3.5 year period on my dirt bike, I've almost always found things stuck in the tire that probably would have yielded a needed fix in the field. It's nice to keep on riding.