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Old 04-04-2012, 07:02 AM   #646
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Its the length of time that they are applied that is the important point with tourniquets. A tourinquet does not mean tissue death (ie: amputation), unless its left on for an extended period of time (over an hour). They are a useful tool to slow/stop serious bleeding and allow dressings & compression to be applied and give them a chance to clot up, esp. if you are doing self-aid. I carry one in my first aid kits.



Not pointless, it can stop severe hemorrhaging. The troops and combat medics carry it in the US Army with the training in how and when to use it.

But yeah, you wouldn't want to use it for a papercut (it REALLY hurts), and its not something you can really apply to yourself, so its utility in a civilian first-aid kit, even a "trauma kit" is doubtful.
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Presumably the type of person who travels back-country and puts themselves in a position to suffer serious blood loss due to traumatic event, will take the trouble to learn about the supplies they carry. And is unlikely to be alone? Thus solving the problem of consciousness / ability to apply.
I can only speak for myself...

Of course, if you are alone, and bleeding enough to lose consciousness, the inability to apply your quick clot is probably not your primary issue
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:33 AM   #647
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Presumably the type of person who travels back-country and puts themselves in a position to suffer serious blood loss due to traumatic event, will take the trouble to learn about the supplies they carry. And is unlikely to be alone?
That is presuming a lot.

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Of course, if you are alone, and bleeding enough to lose consciousness, the inability to apply your quick clot is probably not your primary issue
Depends. If you suffer a serious injury isolated and you only have time to do one thing before passing out or going into shock?
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Old 04-04-2012, 08:38 AM   #648
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That is presuming a lot.



Depends. If you suffer a serious injury isolated and you only have time to do one thing before passing out or going into shock?
Right, but what was mentioned earlier was that if you are bleeding enough to need quick clot, you are most likely unconscious. Of course there is a time lag between injury and black-out.
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Old 04-04-2012, 11:38 AM   #649
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Right, but what was mentioned earlier was that if you are bleeding enough to need quick clot, you are most likely unconscious. Of course there is a time lag between injury and black-out.
Which depending on the cut can be as low as 4-5sec.
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Old 04-04-2012, 04:12 PM   #650
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Old 04-04-2012, 06:11 PM   #651
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:12 PM   #652
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Old 04-04-2012, 10:33 PM   #653
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Old 10-07-2012, 05:25 PM   #654
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This guy has A LOT of good info in his videos. I definitely think he's right on with the NO Tactical look
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Old 10-07-2012, 08:27 PM   #655
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This guy has A LOT of good info in his videos. I definitely think he's right on with the NO Tactical look
Did you see all the shit that guy has in his bag? In the video he said it weighs 20+ pounds... What a nut case.

I've been using a Maxpedition Jumbo versipack to carry my lunch and work shit back and forth everyday on my bikes and in my Jeep. That's about as big a bag I want to deal with everyday, I guess I'm not as paranoid as some people.
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Old 10-07-2012, 09:09 PM   #656
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Its the length of time that they are applied that is the important point with tourniquets. A tourinquet does not mean tissue death (ie: amputation), unless its left on for an extended period of time (over an hour). They are a useful tool to slow/stop serious bleeding and allow dressings & compression to be applied and give them a chance to clot up, esp. if you are doing self-aid. I carry one in my first aid kits.



Not pointless, it can stop severe hemorrhaging. The troops and combat medics carry it in the US Army with the training in how and when to use it.

But yeah, you wouldn't want to use it for a papercut (it REALLY hurts), and its not something you can really apply to yourself, so its utility in a civilian first-aid kit, even a "trauma kit" is doubtful.

Pattern of military injuries and civilian injuries is quite different.



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I keep one of these with me as it is compact and versatile.

Don't see any need for Quick Clot in the civilian world, mostly what civilians die from is internal injuries. Not external exsanguination.
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Old 10-09-2012, 04:12 AM   #658
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Good shit, easy to fight out've and they carry just enough.

also:

http://www.tacmedsolutions.com/store...hp?ProductID=3 + trauma sheers and I'm GTG with most shit.
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