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Old 02-13-2015, 06:26 PM   #1
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This is a GREAT show. I really envy these builders.

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Old 02-13-2015, 06:32 PM   #2
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It's basically a rehash of the "Cafe Racers" show. I still find it quite boring and it has many of the same characters as the original that I loathed. I can't stand hearing all their commentators talking about every decision they make. Just build the freakin bike. Also the minute plus long intro gets really old fast.
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Old 02-13-2015, 06:42 PM   #3
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It's basically a rehash of the "Cafe Racers" show. I still find it quite boring and it has many of the same characters as the original that I loathed. I can't stand hearing all their commentators talking about every decision they make. Just build the freakin bike. Also the minute plus long intro gets really old fast.
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Old 02-13-2015, 07:48 PM   #4
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This is a GREAT show. I really envy these builders.

I though the video pretty well captured the current 'cafe racer' scene. Mostly old bikes being unsympathetically modified, made worse to the point of dangerous, more image than substance, poor build quality, lacking any real originality, and being peddled mostly to people with little, if any, knowledge of motorcycles.

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Old 02-13-2015, 11:55 PM   #5
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This is a GREAT show. I really envy these builders.

I pressed stop when I got to the bit that said "100 MPH on a hand-built bike....risky? hell yeah" and knowing it wasn't gonna be about the Brough Superior SS100 which was first built in 1924...90 years ago.

Aren't there any good build programmes these days? One's that aren't "We're gonna build a motorbike OR DIE TRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!" ...with some more "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"....
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Old 02-14-2015, 08:34 AM   #6
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I pressed stop when I got to the bit that said "100 MPH on a hand-built bike....risky? hell yeah" and knowing it wasn't gonna be about the Brough Superior SS100 which was first built in 1924...90 years ago.

Aren't there any good build programmes these days? One's that aren't "We're gonna build a motorbike OR DIE TRYING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!" ...with some more "!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"....
As far as bikes are concerned? I don't think so. The market is just too small. An example of a show format I think would be good is the Powerblock range of shows on Spike. They work on a large variety of vehicles, without prejudice. No flashy photography, they focus on the build. They are informative enough that experienced people can even pick up new info/tips/tricks. Their hosts are knowledgeable and don't have to talk out of their ass. They produce new episodes frequently so it doesn't get stale like the shows on Velocity. My only criticism is that they have to plug a lot of companies for their builds and featured parts. But that a necessary evil or they wouldn't have the money to make it on tv.
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Old 02-14-2015, 08:44 AM   #7
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It's basically a rehash of the "Cafe Racers" show. I still find it quite boring and it has many of the same characters as the original that I loathed. I can't stand hearing all their commentators talking about every decision they make. Just build the freakin bike. Also the minute plus long intro gets really old fast.
I agree. Long on BS and short on substance.
Bring back the old Speed Channel.
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Old 02-14-2015, 11:04 AM   #8
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Pretty obvious this will be a highly divided thread. I enjoy this genre of bikes, and also enjoy the show. It's basically the only show out there, for cafe bikes. This being a ADV forum, it's not surprising that it won't be very popular with the regulars. Then again, there seem to be a lot of people on this forum that seem to dislike almost everything, and everyone.......except themselves.

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Old 02-14-2015, 11:15 AM   #9
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An inmate builder appears in a recent episode:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...&postcount=201
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Old 02-14-2015, 11:46 AM   #10
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Possibly because I like that kind of bike, I like the show. I like how it seems to concentrate on profiling small 1-2 man shops that try to build unique bikes, that are built to ride, and doesn't spend all its time on conflicts between families or competing builders. Is it highly technical? No. Is it entertaining? I think so.
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Old 02-14-2015, 04:08 PM   #11
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I watch it because I like motorcycle shows that aren't about impossible to ride chopper clones that need to be built to beat some manufactured deadline. I'd like to see a little more of the detail on the cafe build shows and less hyperbole. I guess they need to do something to add some drama.

But then, I watch the How It's Made shows and find just the facts interesting.
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Old 02-14-2015, 05:33 PM   #12
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It certainly appears that I am very easy to please in finding this show good!!! Then again I have not really watched any other build shows since I started riding again in 2010. I am impressed and envious when people go beyond "bolt-on" modifications and create something different--something from their imagination. I would love to do a project bike someday but I do not have the patience--I prefer to be riding and not sweating my balls off fixing all of my fuck-ups!
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:59 AM   #13
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Pretty obvious this will be a highly divided thread. I enjoy this genre of bikes, and also enjoy the show. It's basically the only show out there, for cafe bikes. This being a ADV forum, it's not surprising that it won't be very popular with the regulars. Then again, there seem to be a lot of people on this forum that seem to dislike almost everything, and everyone.......except themselves.

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Has it occurred to you that people who don't like these amateur backyard low cost builds may just be more knowledge, and understand that most comprise little originality, poor workmanship, and will perform like complete and utter dogs. Many are so unsafe they shouldn't be allowed on the road. They are the ultimate bike that is all show and zero go. Total utter pretense of zero merit. Want to see an example of this, here's one. You probably think it looks cool. All I need is a picture to know it's dangerous and will run and handle like a complete dog. Whoever buys this will be getting completely ripped off.


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Old 02-15-2015, 05:20 AM   #14
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Has it occurred to you that people who don't like these amateur backyard low cost builds may just be more knowledge, and understand that most comprise little originality, poor workmanship, and will perform like complete and utter dogs. Many are so unsafe they shouldn't be allowed on the road. They are the ultimate bike that is all show and zero go. Total utter pretense of zero merit. Want to see an example of this, here's one. You probably think it looks cool. All I need is a picture to know it's dangerous and will run and handle like a complete dog. Whoever buys this will be getting completely ripped off.

That's a lot of opinion from a picture. Educate me on why it's such a poor build.
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Old 02-15-2015, 05:34 AM   #15
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That's a lot of opinion from a picture. Educate me on why it's such a poor build.
Good question and an interesting exercise in John putting his words where his pictures are...

So let's hear it John...

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