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Old 10-28-2011, 07:14 AM   #121
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Some of the most fun I've ever had on a bike has been riding a 4RT in the snow. The snow has to be the right depth, too little and you end up digging into the ground beneath and w/ too much the bike won't get enough traction to overcome the resistance. About a foot of snow is good. It's like skiing w/ a motor. Rear wheel never really hooks up - all powerslides all the time. This is best done in large fields w/ some rolling hills, trails might not be such a good idea.
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:26 AM   #122
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Well I've been riding my 4RT for a couple of weeks now and really love the sewing machine motor. It's so easy to start even though it's getting cold in WI and sips gas.

Only thing I don't like is it came with a black throttle tube (which is slow right?) and it's really ummm low power compared to the Sherco 2,9 and it's white throttle tube. I'm having a hard time pulling a wheelie and don't know what I'm doing wrong. It has the stock exhaust and perhaps that's too restictive...So I'm going to the white fast throttle tube but of course I'll miss the slow going in the technical stuff.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:58 PM   #123
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Well I've been riding my 4RT for a couple of weeks now and really love the sewing machine motor. It's so easy to start even though it's getting cold in WI and sips gas.

Only thing I don't like is it came with a black throttle tube (which is slow right?) and it's really ummm low power compared to the Sherco 2,9 and it's white throttle tube. I'm having a hard time pulling a wheelie and don't know what I'm doing wrong. It has the stock exhaust and perhaps that's too restictive...So I'm going to the white fast throttle tube but of course I'll miss the slow going in the technical stuff.
Do you have stock gearing? If so try a 42T or 43T rear sprocket. The Sherco doesn't have more power its just geared lower. You should have the front and middle restrictors removed and leave the last one in. It make almost no difference.
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Old 11-08-2011, 07:45 PM   #124
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It has the stock exhaust and perhaps that's too restictive...
4T's can get way too loud, especially for public lands or private with neighbor issues. Don't get carried away.
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Old 11-09-2011, 11:42 AM   #125
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Calm down, I ride on my land and the bike is much quieter than the Sherco 2T I had...just wish it had more pop like the 2.9.
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Old 11-11-2011, 11:19 AM   #126
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Well I've been riding my 4RT for a couple of weeks now and really love the sewing machine motor. It's so easy to start even though it's getting cold in WI and sips gas.

Only thing I don't like is it came with a black throttle tube (which is slow right?) and it's really ummm low power compared to the Sherco 2,9 and it's white throttle tube. I'm having a hard time pulling a wheelie and don't know what I'm doing wrong. It has the stock exhaust and perhaps that's too restictive...So I'm going to the white fast throttle tube but of course I'll miss the slow going in the technical stuff.
If you have stock gearing going to a 9 tooth counter sprocket is a nice change. Doesn't require a new chain if you don't care about the difference in wear.

I am glad you like it C, I have been to busy to ride mine much lately. Good busy though.
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Old 11-12-2011, 06:39 AM   #127
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I have not been very pleased with Lewisport.

I get my stuff here: http://www.overlandtrail.biz/

Dennis has been great. If he can get it he will. If he doesn't think he can he will let you know.

Thanks for posting this link mud!

+1 to Dennis!

I waited three weeks trying to get an email or phone call answered by Lewisport and finally emailed Dennis. He responded to me in 20 minutes, was great to deal with, had all my parts in stock and in the mail the next morning. He will be my new Montesa parts supplier!!
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Old 11-12-2011, 09:25 AM   #128
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If you have stock gearing going to a 9 tooth counter sprocket is a nice change. Doesn't require a new chain if you don't care about the difference in wear.

I am glad you like it C, I have been to busy to ride mine much lately. Good busy though.
Thanks Doug but it already has a 9 tooth front and 41 rear...oh well. I guess I'm just used to riding the Husaberg and the Sherco 2.9 that I sold. I did order a fast white throttle tube so we'll see. Thanks for all the help and I'm glad you're doing well!
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:28 PM   #129
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Thanks for posting this link mud!

+1 to Dennis!

I waited three weeks trying to get an email or phone call answered by Lewisport and finally emailed Dennis. He responded to me in 20 minutes, was great to deal with, had all my parts in stock and in the mail the next morning. He will be my new Montesa parts supplier!!
Another big +1 for Dennis and mud. After waiting (and still waiting) for an exchange for the wrong part from Lewisport Dennis got the part from Europe to my door in three weeks. I did catch him when he was placing an order but there is no doubt who I'll be calling in the future.
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:31 PM   #130
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I forgot to say its been 4 MONTHS I've been waiting on Lewisport (see my last post)
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Old 11-15-2011, 07:56 PM   #131
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I waited three weeks trying to get an email or phone call answered by Lewisport and finally emailed Dennis. He responded to me in 20 minutes, was great to deal with, had all my parts in stock and in the mail the next morning. He will be my new Montesa parts supplier!!
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I forgot to say its been 4 MONTHS I've been waiting on Lewisport (see my last post)
After waiting now for four weeks for a response from Lewisport via email or phone, Lewisport sent me an email today saying they were sorry for the slight delay in responding to my email! Then offered me prices on all the parts I had already received from Dennis a week ago that were all about 10-15% higher than what Dennis charged me. And only had two of them in stock! How do they stay in business this way? To me, two to three days is a slight delay...four weeks means we don't want your business.
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Old 11-15-2011, 08:44 PM   #132
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I am glad to here you guys are happy with Dennis. It is nice to find someone doing it right and being able to pass it on.

My experience was the same as yours. On both sides.
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Old 11-20-2011, 07:01 AM   #133
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Hi guys I have a 96 beta techno which i managed to move up to senior a line in d6 and have never ridden any of the newer 4 t bikes. was wondering if someoone who has ridden both or a simular 2t bike could tell me how much different they would be to ride at my skill level. thanks

oh am thinking of springing some cash for a bike and possibly competing again so i need some help to see if i should start back on mine or make a change.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:30 PM   #134
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I had a 96 Techno. Nice bike, fun to ride and pretty much bomb proof. Mine had a milled head but even stock they had a pretty good "hit" as I recall. The 4RT (or 315 R for that matter) don't have the same hit but rev smoothly and have plenty of power (in my opinion) its just used a bit differently. I found the front end of the Beta to be significantly more weighted than the Montesas. Tracked well in tight turns but with a snappier motor throttle/clutch control was a bit touchier. It also required more accuracy for steps and such. For me the Montys were as stable in tight turns and the "gentler" throttle response made it easier to ride. While the timing for big steps was different for me, I never felt the smoother response of the Montesas was a problem. I actually prefered it when I figured it out. The 4RT is still new to me but I can't see it gives up anything to a 2 stroke. Timing again is a bit different but traction is much better. I took a break for several years after having a 315R and straight away I could do some things better on the 4RT than I could with the 315R. The Montesas also have a bit more frame flex than the Technos. It seems to compliment the smoother throttle response. For what its worth, I wouldn't hesitate to get a 4RT.
Hope that helps a bit.
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Old 11-22-2011, 07:33 AM   #135
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I had a 96 Techno. Nice bike, fun to ride and pretty much bomb proof. Mine had a milled head but even stock they had a pretty good "hit" as I recall. The 4RT (or 315 R for that matter) don't have the same hit but rev smoothly and have plenty of power (in my opinion) its just used a bit differently. I found the front end of the Beta to be significantly more weighted than the Montesas. Tracked well in tight turns but with a snappier motor throttle/clutch control was a bit touchier. It also required more accuracy for steps and such. For me the Montys were as stable in tight turns and the "gentler" throttle response made it easier to ride. While the timing for big steps was different for me, I never felt the smoother response of the Montesas was a problem. I actually prefered it when I figured it out. The 4RT is still new to me but I can't see it gives up anything to a 2 stroke. Timing again is a bit different but traction is much better. I took a break for several years after having a 315R and straight away I could do some things better on the 4RT than I could with the 315R. The Montesas also have a bit more frame flex than the Technos. It seems to compliment the smoother throttle response. For what its worth, I wouldn't hesitate to get a 4RT.
Hope that helps a bit.
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Thanks john that was exactly the kind of info i was looking for, was assuming the power difference would be a bit gentler but did not know about the frame flex do you view the frame flex as a positive or negative? thanks again!
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