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Old 05-05-2012, 05:46 AM   #1516
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today i install e new rear tire k60 after that balancing the wheel the guy add 3,38oz(105gr) lead(spoke weight), i think is to much my rim is not bended and the bearings in good shape any idea what happens or what i do wrong, also is ugly to look this lead on wheel
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Old 05-05-2012, 05:52 AM   #1517
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I have had to use up to 2 ounces to balance the K60 rear but never more than that.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:23 PM   #1518
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today i install e new rear tire k60 after that balancing the wheel the guy add 3,38oz(105gr) lead(spoke weight), i think is to much my rim is not bended and the bearings in good shape any idea what happens or what i do wrong, also is ugly to look this lead on wheel
(i hope to post to right place!!)
Try to spin the tire on the rim then check the balance again.
Your rim has a heavy spot
your tire has a heavy spot
Get them both facing opposite directions and some times you end up with 0 weight.

Some tires have dot color on them. I think the red dot is the radial high spot of the tire and the yellow dot is the light spot of the tire. You can always find the heavy spot of the rim before mounting the tire, then mount up the yellow dot to line up with the heavy spot on the rim.

But I would search the internet on paint dot on tire to figure out which dot is which.
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Old 05-06-2012, 05:51 PM   #1519
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The K60 is just a liiiitle bit stiffer to work with....
yeah,,sure....just a liiitle biiit
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Old 05-07-2012, 12:06 PM   #1520
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Try to spin the tire on the rim then check the balance again.
Your rim has a heavy spot
your tire has a heavy spot
Get them both facing opposite directions and some times you end up with 0 weight.

Some tires have dot color on them. I think the red dot is the radial high spot of the tire and the yellow dot is the light spot of the tire. You can always find the heavy spot of the rim before mounting the tire, then mount up the yellow dot to line up with the heavy spot on the rim.

But I would search the internet on paint dot on tire to figure out which dot is which.
Thank you!! you help me, i spin the tire and now i use less weight to balance the wheel
also i align the red dot to valve stem
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Old 05-08-2012, 05:02 AM   #1521
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i made a questions about red dots on Heudenau tires and answer very fast!

The red dots show you the heaviest place on the tire.
Two dots mean not so heavy and one dot means heavier than two dots.

I hope that this will help you.

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Old 05-08-2012, 05:03 AM   #1522
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i made a questions about red dots on Heidenau tires and answer very fast!

The red dots show you the heaviest place on the tire.
Two dots mean not so heavy and one dot means heavier than two dots.

I hope that this will help you.

With kind regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:12 PM   #1523
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K60's Road noise

Hi everyone
I just returned form a 1400 mile trip using the K60's front and rear.
I love the traction and handling very much. What I can't stand is the front whirling road noise they resonate.
I ride with a fairly loud I Pod music blaring and can still hear what sounds like a vacuum cleaner up front.

I just sent the question of reversing the tread mount up front ( yes I do have
the tread rotating in the front tire arrow mounting position, even though it has the tread path looking upside down to me ) anyway I would like to hear if anyone else has this occurring and anxious for the Heidenau reply.

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Old 06-24-2012, 07:24 PM   #1524
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Yes Sir Russ. I completely agree. That front Heidey is a whirring, loud, noise-maker extraordinaire.
On the up-side it seems to be loud to critters as well. Kind of like a deer whistle.
Be curious to hear the reply. Please keep us posted.
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Old 06-24-2012, 07:30 PM   #1525
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On the up-side it seems to be loud to critters as well. Kind of like a deer whistle.


That would explain why I didn't see any critters!
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:15 AM   #1526
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Heideanu road noise reply

"Hello Ryan,
first of all, thanks for pleased words about our products.
One question, what was your tire before Heideanu K60 Scout?

The tire has a rough pattern. It is normal that the front wheel makes some loud noise.
If you drive some miles the pattern will be rounder and the noise will be a little bit lesser.

Please do not switch the front pattern. Like the picture, you send with, it is fixed right.
If you do that your tire will get sawtooth after few miles.


I hope this will help you. Every time a good ride on HEIDEANU. ;-)

With kindly regards/Mit freundlichen Grüßen
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I ran TKC-80's Before this set and Anakee's before that. I guess I'll leave them be and see if the tread irons out like he mentioned.
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:07 PM   #1527
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Heidenau's? What sort of plan do the Germans have for us?

Just installed a pair of front/new 150 rear K60 Scouts. Also ordered new tubes, as the previous ones are 4 years old. For an extra 30 bucks, it seemed like a good deal, at the time.
First of all, i installed the tyres myself, in the garage, so no balacing. First off, i have seen concrete vibrators less effective than the front rubber! Up to 40 kph, it's like a bad porn movie. Full of insecure vibes, transmitted through the bars, shaky mirrors and overall fear. Especially on deceleration. Over 40, it boils down until 140 kph, then it's on again. All the way up. I could not push it over 160 kph, because they put the mighty fear back into my balls...
As for traction, they are not bad. I used the TKC's before these Heidenau's. Now those were serious tyres. From the get go, no vibes at starting speeds. Normal pressure applied, of course. Of course, after 110 kph, the TKC's were vibrating like on a Husaberg.
After the initial contact, i took a 1500 km trip, with 80 percent road and 20 on loose, rocky mountain trails. The rear feels really dodgy out there, slipping around and failing to put the power down. I am sure the middle continous rubber patch might be to blame. I know it's 85 hp, but even on steep descents, engine off, first gear, clutch braking, the bike would slide like Santa's sleigh. Mabye the trail was too much for this bike. Certainly it was a pain for me. Only managed 30 kms in 8 hours.
Oh, and i can also pride myself with being the only BMW rider who managed 3 (three) flat rear tyres in two days, on the same tube, and from the SAME god damn nail!:))) If you are curious, it goes like this: first off, i caught the nail, stopped, took the tyre out and being a lazy mechanic, i tossed on the back of my brother's bike to the nearest tyre shop(all because i had no rim protectors, and why scratch your rims on an adventure bike?!:))). The guy fixed the puncture, i got the wheel back on, and 2 kms later, disaster: flat again, same rear tyre. Took the wheel off, tossed it again on my brother's bike, and traveled another 15 kms to another tyre shop. Turns out, the first guy applied the patch NEXT to the puncture. Another patch and 20 minutes later, the wheel is on again. Next day, we rode a steep mountain track, with loose gravel, rocky inclines and gorgeous views. Right at the top, of course, everyone else is pointing at my rear. Wheel. It's flat. Again. With no backup plan, i take out the tyre irons and start scratching. 2o minutes later, i am looking at two patches and a nail puncture RIGHT in between those two!!!! So, it is possible, if anybody asks!

Going back to the K60 Scout, the tyres feel safe on tarmac, although vibrations at low speeds are disturbing, as you always feel like something is about to come off: front tyre, brake disks, that sort of feeling. The rear has very good traction on road, but in loose gravel and muddy trails it's less secure and less planted than the TKC. But overall, if you plan a 70/30 trip, then Heidenau is your answer.
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:20 PM   #1528
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Please observe the nail!!!


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Old 06-25-2012, 06:30 PM   #1529
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All "dirt" tires make noise. If you don't like noise go back to the same street tires that the Harley riders use.

Or maybe Heidi should just change the pattern and make it more street worthy and less noisy since that's about all the design is good for. The K60 is definitely not meant to be ridden in the dirt even if it does have the look of a dirt tire.
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Old 06-25-2012, 06:42 PM   #1530
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All "dirt" tires make noise. If you don't like noise go back to the same street tires that the Harley riders use.

Or maybe Heidi should just change the pattern and make it more street worthy and less noisy since that's about all the design is good for. The K60 is definitely not meant to be ridden in the dirt even if it does have the look of a dirt tire.
They're supposed to do that and I encourage Heidenau to keep what they have. It's a great tire. Mine vibrate enough for me to know I don't have Pilot Power 3CT's. But they do what they are supposed to do when off road, as witnessed from my last dual sport trip to Colorado. I use K60 rear and TKC80 front.
FWIW.
http://forums.pelicanparts.com/bmw-r...2012-trip.html
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