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Old 02-21-2013, 11:20 AM   #7351
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:41 AM   #7352
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Nice work. Aren't u gonna put a tube between the stock peg and the extension for more lateral strength ?
Like these? Not strong enough.

The new ones are much stronger, strong enough i would say, 4 bolts contra 3 bolts. They have to brake apart before the frame mount brakes. So its a fine balance between things

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Old 02-21-2013, 02:40 PM   #7353
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Like these? Not strong enough.

The new ones are much stronger, strong enough i would say, 4 bolts contra 3 bolts. They have to brake apart before the frame mount brakes. So its a fine balance between things

I'm sorry, but the comment about breaking the frame because the foot pegs are 1 inch longer always troubles me. Stating that this is a fine balance without having done exhaustive finite element analysis to understand if this is a problem is just a shade tree mechanics. There are so many variables involved with this, that it is meaningless to state that the method you are attaching the extension with will really even matter. What type of alloy is used in the frame? In the frame weld? What is the quality of the weld? Same questions for the foot pegs material. What about the type of impact? Which direction, tip over or high side or slide? What is the rate of impact?

If you want longer pegs, weld on some extensions with reasonable end loop reinforcement, and be done with it. No sense over thinking this problem.
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:21 PM   #7354
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whoa ..... ! something doesn't look right
are you sure that is the new upgraded water pump shaft ?
it looks like the old style
the new upgraded shaft should be black if I am not mistaken, like the one in dogslobbers post


I'm interested in this black shaft stuff, I always carry a spare shaft and seal in my kit on long rides but my spare is silver like the original, it was purchased around 2 years ago and was supposed to be the upgraded version at that stage.
Can anyone tell me the difference between it and the black one and when the black one was released
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Old 02-21-2013, 05:46 PM   #7355
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I'm interested in this black shaft stuff, I always carry a spare shaft and seal in my kit on long rides but my spare is silver like the original, it was purchased around 2 years ago and was supposed to be the upgraded version at that stage.
Can anyone tell me the difference between it and the black one and when the black one was released
A better idea would to get a truly hardened shaft that will really last:

http://www.cjdesignsllc.com/products...-cover-gasket/

{No affiliation. It's just a good product).
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Old 02-21-2013, 06:41 PM   #7356
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I'm interested in this black shaft stuff, I always carry a spare shaft and seal in my kit on long rides but my spare is silver like the original, it was purchased around 2 years ago and was supposed to be the upgraded version at that stage.
Can anyone tell me the difference between it and the black one and when the black one was released
The black one is the original out of my SE. I have a CJ one in the WP kit I got from him, but couldn't see putting it in, when the black one looked good.
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Old 02-21-2013, 11:20 PM   #7357
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I'm sorry, but the comment about breaking the frame because the foot pegs are 1 inch longer always troubles me. Stating that this is a fine balance without having done exhaustive finite element analysis to understand if this is a problem is just a shade tree mechanics. There are so many variables involved with this, that it is meaningless to state that the method you are attaching the extension with will really even matter. What type of alloy is used in the frame? In the frame weld? What is the quality of the weld? Same questions for the foot pegs material. What about the type of impact? Which direction, tip over or high side or slide? What is the rate of impact?

If you want longer pegs, weld on some extensions with reasonable end loop reinforcement, and be done with it. No sense over thinking this problem.
You can read my post in two ways, the scientist way or just common sense. You cant predict how a fall would be in a forrest or any other place 100% . The only thing i can say is that they hold up too me 100% when im jumping hard on them. So when I say its a fine balance between things, its not the scientist speaking, its just my common sense speaking.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:56 AM   #7358
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You can read my post in two ways, the scientist way or just common sense. You cant predict how a fall would be in a forrest or any other place 100% . The only thing i can say is that they hold up too me 100% when im jumping hard on them. So when I say its a fine balance between things, its not the scientist speaking, its just my common sense speaking.
I've signed up to be a crash test dummy for Jimmie, so I'll let you know.

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Old 02-22-2013, 04:07 AM   #7359
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Old 02-22-2013, 04:16 AM   #7360
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I've signed up to be a crash test dummy for Jimmie, so I'll let you know.

Hehe im excited to hear what you think of them
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Old 02-22-2013, 06:20 AM   #7361
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You can read my post in two ways, the scientist way or just common sense. You cant predict how a fall would be in a forrest or any other place 100% . The only thing i can say is that they hold up too me 100% when im jumping hard on them. So when I say its a fine balance between things, its not the scientist speaking, its just my common sense speaking.
Thanks for being understanding of the Anal Hypen Retentive engineering community on ADV Sometimes we just can't help ourselves.

My peg extension project is here.

I absolutely love the longer pegs. It is much more comfortable to stand when you have support all the way across your foot.
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Old 02-22-2013, 11:00 AM   #7362
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Thanks for being understanding of the Anal Hypen Retentive engineering community on ADV Sometimes we just can't help ourselves.

My peg extension project is here.

I absolutely love the longer pegs. It is much more comfortable to stand when you have support all the way across your foot.
Anal Hypen Retentive engineering community arent there a shorter word for that? He he

Those pegs are fine have you done some offroading with them yet?
Only downside is, that they require a welder and some spare pegs. But nice and wide
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Old 02-22-2013, 12:39 PM   #7363
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Anal Hypen Retentive engineering community arent there a shorter word for that? He he

Those pegs are fine have you done some offroading with them yet?
Only downside is, that they require a welder and some spare pegs. But nice and wide
Yes, I've done a little bit of a off road on them. A friend thought that I might start catching them on things when riding off road, but I doubt I'm going to be riding in huge ruts or around a big rocks with this bike.

Yes, it requires a welder. Doesn't everyone need an excuse to buy more tools? I used my cheap harbor freight mig welder to weld this.

I got the pegs free from the pay it forward thread on ADV rider. My other option was to purchase peg extensions from one of the online stores, but then I would have to fabricate some kind of web to fill the empty loop on the end.
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Old 02-22-2013, 02:10 PM   #7364
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Had some spare time today, so I got around to putting on a couple extras on the 990. I ordered the Wolman Expedition saddle bags as well as their rack system. I must say, I'm very impressed with the quaility of both products. Looking forward to taking my trip to the PNW even more now.


Has anybody done the hard bag kit from Wolfman? I have some Pelicans around the would work great.


I also bolted on the bar riser kit from KTMtwins, I felt really bent ove rbefore when standing now it feels much more comfortable.
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Old 02-22-2013, 03:51 PM   #7365
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Has anybody done the hard bag kit from Wolfman?
It wouldn't be hard at all to make your own mounts, real cheap. Here are mine:


Blocks of Delrin/Acetal work great for mounting Pelicans.
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