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Old 02-16-2014, 10:22 AM   #9196
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I'd seriously like to do the full air box removal for simplicity, weight reduction, allow the engine to breathe better, and I'm guessing allow more air flow around the engine in that region.

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When I installed my CPR filter I positioned the boot clamps such that I can now remove the carbs without removing the tanks. Just the seat and glovebox.
Makes jetting changes so much easier.
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Old 02-16-2014, 10:58 AM   #9197
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Well, you know being in Arizona that water crossings aren't common. Removing the snorkel and replacing it with a foam filter isn't changing much -- maybe 6 inches less deep water sacrifice at the most. I ride my CRF450R all over the state and have never come to a water crossing I couldn't do and its air filter is much lower than the 990.

I'm not trying to ride my bike like a submarine. If the water is that deep then it just ain't worth the risk.

I'd seriously like to do the full air box removal for simplicity, weight reduction, allow the engine to breathe better, and I'm guessing allow more air flow around the engine in that region.

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I'd like to make the bike easier to work on also but that one time in deep water is worrisome to me. I did sheep bridge a few months ago and crossed in some deep water. Maybe I worry too much but I'll keep my airbox for now. Besides I ride not just in AZ. I've been all over the country. I'd hate to ride to Colorado and then worry about water. ...although I'd probably still worry about it.
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Old 02-16-2014, 11:44 AM   #9198
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I'd like to make the bike easier to work on also but that one time in deep water is worrisome to me. I did sheep bridge a few months ago and crossed in some deep water. Maybe I worry too much but I'll keep my airbox for now. Besides I ride not just in AZ. I've been all over the country. I'd hate to ride to Colorado and then worry about water. ...although I'd probably still worry about it.
Let's play the "what if game".
What if you keep the stock air box and it's still too deep? You find another place to cross or go a different way. I will do the same with mine. I like the extra power and am willing to take that 1 in 100 chance and I will take the long way. :)
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:06 PM   #9199
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Let's play the "what if game".
What if you keep the stock air box and it's still too deep? You find another place to cross or go a different way. I will do the same with mine. I like the extra power and am willing to take that 1 in 100 chance and I will take the long way. :)
That's awesome for you.
Not sure why but it seems some of you get upset when people ask "why" you make certain modifications to your bike.

Anyway,... it's a very cool modification,... just not for me.
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:17 PM   #9200
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I think the Rottweiler system "might" let water in a few inches sooner but in the event of a failed water crossing it would make clearing the bike of water and pulling a plug exponentially easier.

Makes no difference to me what system people like to run either way but might be something to consider.
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:36 PM   #9201
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I see all these air box's and snorkel's being removed. Aren't any of you guys worried about water crossings? I mean what do you do when it's deep water?
No. If your bike has vent tubes, throttle cables, a fuel line and an idle adjuster sticking out the bottom of the airbox like mine did, I wouldn't be submerging that either.
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Old 02-16-2014, 12:49 PM   #9202
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That's awesome for you.
Not sure why but it seems some of you get upset when people ask "why" you make certain modifications to your bike.

Anyway,... it's a very cool modification,... just not for me.
No one is upset bro. I'm just throwing things out there. There is nothing wrong with either set up. Good luck with your future deep endeavors. :)
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Old 02-16-2014, 04:00 PM   #9203
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K&N air filter, topped up the oil (wasn't changed long ago). new headlight bulb.

and a slavens racing skid plate for good measure. ready for my next ride this weekend.
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Old 02-16-2014, 04:41 PM   #9204
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I'd like to make the bike easier to work on also but that one time in deep water is worrisome to me. I did sheep bridge a few months ago and crossed in some deep water. Maybe I worry too much but I'll keep my airbox for now. Besides I ride not just in AZ. I've been all over the country. I'd hate to ride to Colorado and then worry about water. ...although I'd probably still worry about it.
EZ300,

How deep was the water at Sheeps Bridge? I'd like to ride there someday, but I've heard motorcycles aren't allowed on the bridge and everything past it is off limits. I've heard rangers will sometimes wait on the other side to catch riders.

I don't have a lot of ride time in Colorado, but the places I've been were never too deep for a standard dirt bike.

I agree with you about not wanting to have issues, but I still believe that anything that is going to be air box deep is too deep in the first place. Even still, given this, it would be interesting for someone to have an answer to this issue. Maybe an optional base plate for the CPR kit that is more of a bowl or tub that surrounds the filter. Give you the same height as the air box, but without a lid of course, just for some added security. But I'm sure that would have issues of its own...

Or why not make a better air box for the bike that accepts a good foam filter, has a high intake point, but the breathing qualities of more open designs. Just brainstorming I guess.

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Old 02-16-2014, 04:59 PM   #9205
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Loaded it up to play in the mud tomorrow.

Mendo National Forest. Eastern woods style in northern Cali.

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Old 02-16-2014, 05:04 PM   #9206
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Old 02-16-2014, 05:26 PM   #9207
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EZ300,

How deep was the water at Sheeps Bridge? I'd like to ride there someday, but I've heard motorcycles aren't allowed on the bridge and everything past it is off limits. I've heard rangers will sometimes wait on the other side to catch riders.


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It wasn't bad until I dropped into a hole and then it was up to my seat. I was stressing big time but came through ok.

I hate water crossings. If I would have tipped it over that would have been the end.
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Old 02-16-2014, 07:02 PM   #9208
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tested my new bike rack!
Man, the possibilities around Ashville must be endless with that setup. And when the pitch goes too vertical for an Adventure 950 and a cross bike, I hope you have some rock climbing gear stashed in that pelican case.

Pulled my rear wheel and installed a ZipTY Shark Fin while I drank a homebrew. More rock prevention. Lubed the chain adjuster bolts with anti-seize while I was at it. Too easy.
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Old 02-16-2014, 07:17 PM   #9209
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Old 02-16-2014, 07:39 PM   #9210
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About foam filter and water crossings:

Last year I participated in a rally with my 950 adv that involved lots of water crossings with a couple really deep . One was so deep that standing up I could see half of my head light under the water.....anyway I have/had ITG air filter (CPR is the same just rebranded. ITG is the company that makes it for cpr). I had no issue with water getting into the carbs.

But a 990R adv with stock snorkel flooded and I had to help him because he didn't have spark plug wrench. His air box was full of water,the drain hole was plugged by mud.

A well oiled foam filter holds up against water surprisingly well. I can see this every time I wash the filter. Even a pre filter is better that snorkel. I also rode 8000km to Newfoundland last year and had to ride in heavy rain...no issues. You can get the filter from CPR or this good inmate: Sporting Wood http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=870579


Now to stay on topic....I checked the steering head bearings. The bottom one was rusty although I could not feel anything by moving the handle bar.. Got new ones locally and changed both. Last time I changed them was 4 years ago. It'd not easy to get bottom bearing out.



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