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Old 04-29-2010, 01:02 PM   #16
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:15 PM   #17
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Hi folks looking at making the change to one of these types of bikes. I like these two the most. I'm inclined to get the BMW, but worried it won't have enough "zip.". . . can anyone compare it to the "R" KTM?

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This dead horse has been beaten since 2003. The answer remains unchanged since 2005: HP2
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:25 PM   #18
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This dead horse has been beaten since 2003. The answer remains unchanged since 2005: HP2
+1 The HP2 is the best of both bikes. The great motor, lighter than the GS/GSA, etc,etc,etc....

I was in the same boat. Read all the 990 engine threads and then find one to ride. Ride it in real world conditions. You will find your answer.
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Old 04-29-2010, 04:42 PM   #19
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One place I notice a big difference is passing. You have to plan it out more on the BMW
My 2008 r1200gs is point and shoot. Emphasis on shoot. Quick, like a bullet, out of the barrel of a gun. It gets up to speed in an awfully big hurry when you want to, as long as that speed is below say, 91 mph. I've mellowed a tad, but I still like to reach the speed limit on every road I ride as fast as mechanically possible. The beemer has ZIP in spades!

I've been on fast machines and quick machines, I've done 10,000 miles on the Aprilia 1000cc Rotax motor. I've raced an R6 and hit top speed on that machine. I would say the BMW boxer motor is smooth and kind of a lazy fast whereas the Aprilia was sneaky fast. Twist the loud stick on the Aprilia and the speedometer on that puppy would be passing 100mph before you knew it. Doing the same on the beemer yields a sanely quick response, with just enough of an edge to make sure stay alert and pay proper attention. You will NOT fall asleep as long as you keep the right wrist moving quickly, frequently.


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The BMW is way enjoyable to put miles on
Agreed. Berry, berry much fun. Once you find your windscreen so the buffeting stops drumming on your helmet, mile after mile is easier than fishing. So easy, even a caveman could do it.
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Old 04-29-2010, 05:16 PM   #20
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Spent time and owned on lots of GS's and KTM's.

Take a look at my sig and you can probably guess which one I'm going to recommend overall....
  • Serious off road: KTM
  • Moderate off road: KTM
  • Graded dirt road: Pick 'em
  • Paved long distance two up touring: BMW
  • Paved long distance one-up touring: Pick 'em
  • 1,000 mile butt burner: BMW
  • 200 miles of canyon twisties: KTM
  • Wheelie/hooligan/general misbehaving: KTM
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:01 PM   #21
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I'll Throw a Wrench in the Works - Super Enduro

You might want to go check out the KTM Super Enduro.

Definitely more fun in the dirt than either GSA or KTM Adventure and you can kick it around town. I don't have one, but like you, I am looking to add another mistress to the stable.

I have a BMW R1200RT that I do my serious long rides on (last summer we rode to Alaska and back out of Seattle). Buddies were on a GSA and a 650 GS. Naturally when we stopped I was ready to keep riding, but then again when they turned north to go to Prudhoe Bay I went south to Homer and Seward.

I have a KTM 530EXC (plated) which is perfect for me here in So. Cal. when I want to go dirt riding. We are going to do the Trans America Trail in September and I will be on my dirt bike. My buddy is going to take his EXC as well but he sure is flipping and flopping as to whether or not he wants to do it on his GSA. If I had either the KTM or the GSA Adventure he would probably take the GSA. The Adventures are great but they just can't keep up with the little dirt bikes, and they are no fun in the sand (too heavy).

I am looking at the KTM Adventure, the GSA or even maybe the Super Enduro. I will likely go with the KTM Adventure (long road trips and then the "hey, where does that dirt road go?" situations.

As far as farkling - Touratech, Aerostich and tons of other sites will give you more than you will ever really need with all of these bikes.

Good luck on your decision. It is a pretty good problem to have. Let us know what you decide and why.

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Old 04-29-2010, 06:16 PM   #22
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You might want to go check out the KTM Super Enduro.

Definitely more fun in the dirt than either GSA or KTM Adventure and you can kick it around town.
Yea, those are pretty fun too!
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Old 04-29-2010, 06:36 PM   #23
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Yea, those are pretty fun too!
So I've heard.
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Old 04-29-2010, 09:12 PM   #24
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The real solution is to ride both and pick. I rode the BMW GS800 twin, the KTM Adventure and a couple others.

The KTM feels slightly more flickable/hooligan friendly, and I like the bags they offer. If I got one I'd have had to add some body/crash protection.

The BMW feels a bit more substantial, but is still quite nimble. No need to add bigger tank and tip over bars to the Adventure. It was also the one I could picture being happy on for 6-800 mile days.


The bottom line for me: There was just something about the BMW that spoke to me...

Funny- I started looking at used KLR's, never dreaming I'd drop that kind of change.
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Old 04-30-2010, 07:02 PM   #25
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You didn't say what you want to do with it?? It sounds like your looking to do off road,but if that's the case then why do you need zip? I'm sure from all your reading you've found the KTM to be more off road worthy and the BMW to be more comfortable on road. I'm comming from a Harley Electra Glide so the BMW to me is fast,handles very well and has unbelieveable brakes. I've really pushes it off road so far and it pretty much delivers,but it's heavy,and if it's going down it's hard to convince it otherwise. With street tires it's awesome,even on fire roads. I'd only buy the GSA over the GS if you think you're going to need the extra gas. I bought the GSA because I want to do it all,and I really think I'll be able to do every kind of riding with this bike besides hard single track. I'm thinking of getting a KLR 650 ,or a KTM similar size to do more off road stuff,but for now I'll keep pushing my beemer until I get the dough.
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Old 02-28-2013, 12:26 PM   #26
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A BMW fanatic has lost his faith or not?
I did want an 800 GS but i could not find one so I bought a
KTM 990 ADV for my up and coming trip to Cali and Mexico.
I am, I hope, going all the way to Argie and the idea of a final drive taking a dump on my trip was a nono so a 1200 was out.
Also it's going to be interesting to see what the brothers in Austria has managed to make.
I know it's more maintenance intensive but a Colombian wrench man can wrench and I'll supervise.
Still Crashmaster made it all the way down on his 990.
I have a dream and that is that i will have the best of times orange or not!
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Old 02-28-2013, 12:30 PM   #27
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it's all about the ride - not the bike

have a fantastic trip - doesn't matter whether it's orange - or blue-and-white .....

get out and RIDE!!!! lucky dog
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:07 PM   #28
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Hell you could have bought a DRZ....................it's the ride not the bike that make the memories.

Enjoy, Have Fun, Be Safe..........
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:19 PM   #29
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AHHH!


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HAVE A GREAT TRIP.
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Old 02-28-2013, 01:20 PM   #30
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Or just buy a Stelvio and ride in worryfree bliss.
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