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Old 02-28-2013, 02:30 PM   #31
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true there are issues with BMW's but they have a lot more touring miles on them than any other brand
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:49 PM   #32
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AHHH!

Final Drive vs Water Pump

The above is like comparing a heart attack with a broken toe


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Old 02-28-2013, 03:50 PM   #33
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I'm sure the above claim will provide solace to a rider who
is stranded in the middle of nowhere with a BMW final drive failure



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Pishah...

Rebuilt mine in a parking lot in Co. Not such a big deal


four hours, done and done, including breaks and a dry ice run
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Old 02-28-2013, 03:57 PM   #34
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The above is like comparing a heart attack with a broken toe


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http://www.ktmtwins.com/ktm-950-990-...mp-rebuild-kit


Take your pick $100.00 every ten thou
Or $150.00 every 50 thou.

I will take the FD please for $400 savings alex
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:08 PM   #35
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Pishah...

Rebuilt mine in a parking lot in Co. Not such a big deal

You obviously have impressive mechanical skill. But not everyone
has your skill and knowledge and thus some people may be stranded
when their final drive fails until they find a competent mechanic.


How many cars or trucks have you owned which had a differential fail such that
the vehicle could not be driven ? I've owned over 40 different cars and
trucks and never had a single final drive failure on any of those vehicles.


Considering what a BMW costs to buy, final drives should have a near
zero incidence of failure assuming the bike is not involved in a crash or
other scenario which could cause damage.


But at the end of the day we all get to spend our money as we think best
and if someone thinks a BMW is the best bike to buy that's what he or she should
buy


I hope the OP has a fun and hassle-free trip.



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Old 02-28-2013, 04:09 PM   #36
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http://www.ktmtwins.com/ktm-950-990-...mp-rebuild-kit

Take your pick $100.00 every ten thou
Or $150.00 every 50 thou.

I will take the FD please for $400 savings alex


2012 BMW GSA new = $19,000.

2012 KTM 990 Adv new = $15,000.

Now, what was that about saving money again ?


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Old 02-28-2013, 04:20 PM   #37
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You obviously have impressive mechanical skill. But not everyone
has your skill and knowledge and thus some people may be stranded
when their final drive fails until they find a competent mechanic.


How many cars or trucks have you owned which had a differential fail such that
the vehicle could not be driven ? I've owned over 40 different cars and
trucks and never had a single final drive failure on any of those vehicles.


Considering what a BMW costs to buy, final drives should have a near
zero incidence of failure assuming the bike is not involved in a crash or
other scenario which could cause damage.


But at the end of the day we all get to spend our money as we think best
and if someone thinks a BMW is the best bike to buy that's what he or she should
buy


I hope the OP has a fun and hassle-free trip.



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In fourty years I have only owned six autos, and one of those I gave to an EX and none had a driveline issue

But I own 7 BM cycles currently, and their age adds up to at least a hundred. only one had a FD failure. Go figure.


Yes

I am sure the OP will have a Hassle free trip
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Old 02-28-2013, 04:53 PM   #38
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Old 03-01-2013, 09:31 AM   #39
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Talking Ooops

Now now boys no fighting over nonsense.
Drive what you like and have fun, I'll have the best of two worlds.
Brand fanatics suck big time.
I have:
1 MERC 220 convertible
1 MG TC
1 Porsche Carrera
1 Volvo
1 BMW R75/5
1 BMW R 25
1 BMW R 1200 GSA
1 KTM 990 AV
Which one is the best?
The one I'm riding/ driving at the moment.
Arrrgh
whatever
PS I WILL have fun
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:29 PM   #40
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I ride with a guy who has a ktm 990 I ride a GS. on the road the KTM 990 is quicker, My bike is more "comfy" and we stop quite a bit so he can stretch. Did I mention KTM seats are a little stiff?

In the dirt we both ride KTM's, a 525 and a 300. I have never seen that 990 in the forest. Most of the dirt guys I know like the ADV bikes because the setup is similar to a dirt bike.
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:53 PM   #41
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Ktm vs GSA

I ride 11 GSA , my pal rides a 990adv r , both are great bikes and we have done main land Mexico, baja , Grand Canyon , just got back from cabo etc , Over 25k so far on it He had to put larger tanks on the Ktm to get the same mileage as GSA so it changed his center of gravity so he took more naps ! It's also a lot taller it seems so he has also dropped a few times when stopping in uneven ground , I'm not bashing his bike it's great but after a hard days ride he gets off like John Wayne , he's also spent big bucks on about 4 or 5 seats and still hasn't found a good one That he likes . I agree off road the Ktm is seems better but as we spend 80% on tar he regrets not buying a GSA . It all depends on what you use it for . With upgraded suspension , windshield ,tanks ,etc he's paid more than a stock GSA . If I had the cash I'd buy 900adv for 50/50 and GSA for 70/30 but for me the GSA seems middle ground .
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Old 03-01-2013, 01:55 PM   #42
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I've owned five BMW motorcycles over my 39 years of riding. I've replaced drive shafts on two of them, And final drives have required re-building on two of them. Two of those BMW's went past 100,000 miles. This latest has rolled past 187,000 miles.
This last BMW is working its way through the third drive shaft in that time. The final drive bearings have been replaced four times, so the fifth set.
This bike has been the most expensive bike to run per mile of all my bikes. Including the Norton.

This BMW is my last BMW. My next bike will likely be a thumper and not have ABS. But, that decision isn't going to be made until I'm done wearing the parts out on this bike, and I can no longer afford to by replacement parts or fix/rebuild others.

The last drive shaft I bought cost around $800 by the time I opened the box in my garage. I've ridden a couple of 990's and I liked them fine. I know I'll hate working on them after the BMW. But, every time I bleed the brake fluid I'll smile. And no more melting the rear light.
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:16 PM   #43
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OneWheelDrive.net did a three part series called "Arctic Challenge", comparing the R1200GS Adv to the KTM 990 Adv and the F800GS a while back. Besides being a very entertaining read, I think it was a pretty unbiased review of the bikes. I found it very helpful when I was making my decision. In the end, they're split on which bike they liked best based on what they were personally looking for in a bike.
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Old 03-01-2013, 02:44 PM   #44
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How many KTMs have you seen on a iron butt ride?
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Old 03-01-2013, 05:33 PM   #45
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Most definitely the better question is to ask what kind of rider are you. The bike may as well be medication for a illness. You need to be prescribed the right one. I'm a 70/30 2 up rider (70% solo), 70/30 off/on road (70% slab). The doctors say's GSA. I've ridden a KTM and was really impressed. More nimble, more low range power. I ride my GSA, I drove the KTM.

These conversations about what is best are really dumb. How can I tell you what is best for you. Know the bike, know your needs, the decision is then easier.

Are there times when my GSA is too heavy and I find myself nose down in a muddy road, sure! Just as there are time when that KTM driver is clenching his ass cheeks after a 10 hour ride. I have yet to find one that does it all. Find the one that fits the majority of your needs the best.
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