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Old 02-03-2015, 12:17 PM   #1
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Front brake pads - Organic? Carbon Kevlar? Sintered?

Subject ride: Olga - 1975 R90S

Front brakes: Stock dual front BMW disk - 260mm, with KZ750 calipers

Rear brake: Stock BMW drum

Just a reality check for me, but now that I know what I have for brakes, I am going to pick up some new front pads. I understand the fundamental differences in application of different friction materials. However, I was looking for some real world experience from those that have run a hack, with the commensurate additional weight, and what pad material you have run.

Thanks for input, or a head slap and a reference to a previous thread. I tried the google search for it here and came up with bupkis . . .
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Old 02-03-2015, 04:06 PM   #2
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I like sintered pads the best for their stopping power and the range of conditions that they work well in. When it comes to brand I always look for Ferodo brake pads if they have the application I need.
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Old 02-03-2015, 05:16 PM   #3
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I have yet to have any good luck with discount pads, making me think Carl may be right, I took my dust covers off the calipers , shoot some brake cleaner in and blow them out periodically.If I don't clean them they squeal and are annoying.DB
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Old 02-03-2015, 06:55 PM   #4
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I want the strongest pads I can find which are rated HH. ebc brand if available.can't go wrong with ferodo but they are pricy. the softer material will wear faster.

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Old 02-03-2015, 10:31 PM   #5
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I want the strongest pads I can find which are rated HH. ebc brand if available.can't go wrong with ferodo but they are pricy. the softer material will wear faster.

I'd rather have good quality soft brake pads than hard brake pads.
I found out the hard way by wearing out my disc rotors.
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Old 02-04-2015, 03:27 AM   #6
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The EBC HH pads work well.
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Old 02-04-2015, 05:55 AM   #7
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I tried EBC's , they stopped well but no better than what I was using and were noisy so I've gone back to Ferodo's, another benefit is under non race conditions they last a long time. I reckon brake pad discussions can be akin to oil threads and bottom line is like Dave mentioned stay away from the cut rate brands.
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Old 02-04-2015, 06:10 AM   #8
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Thanks guys.

I agree, Carl, and I really did not want to start a "which brand is better" discussion.

Per Eric's comment, my real point in starting this discussion was pad hardness as related to wear, both of the pad and more importantly (expensively), the rotors. Hard pads do not necessarily abrade the rotors quickly, but hard abrasive pads will.

I think I will wind up doing what I usually do, which is experiment with some pads and see what works best. The Tokico pads that are on the bike now appear to be organic, and do wear rather quickly, but that does not bother me too much. I'll probably start with organics, and go up from there in terms of hardness.
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Old 02-04-2015, 06:14 AM   #9
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I have had several racers remind me to scotch bright and break clean scrub the rotors clean before using new pads. The advise was for the differences in pad compounds. It did not sound like a bad idea so I have been doing this extra step.
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I've ordered three sets of EBC pads: FA68 (kevlar/organic), FA68V (semi-sintered), and FA68HH (full sintered/hard). We'll start in the middle and work outward.
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Old 02-05-2015, 01:26 PM   #11
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I've ordered three sets of EBC pads: FA68 (kevlar/organic), FA68V (semi-sintered), and FA68HH (full sintered/hard). We'll start in the middle and work outward.
I replaced some slightly worn, glazed EBC HH pads with a new set. I also used a maroon roloc disc on a die grinder and went over both sides of both front discs. The change in braking power was amazing. I have to think part of it was cleaning the disc with the scotchbrite pads.

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Old 02-05-2015, 05:43 PM   #12
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my experience with ebc HH pads on my ducati was that the effort at the lever was halved.
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