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Old 05-03-2010, 04:04 PM   #121
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And now Warloop Rd...Reported to be the toughest 6-8 miles on the Eastern part of the TAT and you will not get any disagreement from me. The first part is just your average garden variety single lane mud road until you reach the small sign which says IMPASSABLE ROAD AHEAD.



After the warning sign, Warloop goes literally down hill and becomes increasing more narrow and wetter. It was not long before I was sweeping branches out of the way with my windshield. The ground got softer and wetter the more you went down the hill.

I came to a full stop when I reached a large stone outcropping. On the backside of the stones was a sharp drop. I was pretty sure I could get over them. Maybe I'd drag my frame, but gravity was on my side. It could be done.

Beyond the outcrop, the Warloop got even more narrow, softer and wetter. The mud beyond the rocks was deep and there was no space to turn around.

I was concerned my 30" A/T and relatively low clearance would not let me get back over the rocks even if I could get turned around.

After walking around and looking at the situation from every angle, I decided to turn my rig around, tuck my tail between my legs and pull back up the hill.
I know you have to be careful traveling by yourself, but I think you could have made Warloop. You were pretty much at the worst spot of it.

Enjoying the trip. Keep writing!
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Old 05-03-2010, 07:05 PM   #122
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Looks like a lot of fun in the Jeep!

The rocks are piled up to serve as an anchor or cornerpost for the the wire fence.

and Vinita is pronounced more like Va-nee-tah not "vee-in-net-ta"

You were in beautiful and remote country today. Tomorrow will be No-mans land. lol
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Old 05-03-2010, 07:56 PM   #123
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I'm enjoying your report very much - it's sometimes difficult to convey the situation in pics as it unfolds. There's always the second guessers and armchair quarterbacks but you're the one that has to deal with the consequences of your choice of route or line.
Cindy and I took an adventure ride today of our own - to Snyder, Tx. We'll be here 'till noon tomorrow(had to come here for a safety class) then on to Carlsbad then backroads to Alamagordo then back to Colo.

I'll stay in touch - if it looks like you're going to beat me to SW Colo we'll hightail it home.

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Old 05-04-2010, 09:58 AM   #124
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No, I didn't bring an air up (and down) system.
Going back through your trip report and caught this....

PLEASE oh PLEASE tell me you brought an air compressor?!? Hate to know you got a flat, put your spare on and get another flat, then stuck with two flats... if your spare even has air in it!
Make a stop at the next wally world and get you a bloody air pump and a cheapo tire plug kit, will yah! Unprepared son of A.
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Old 05-04-2010, 10:53 AM   #125
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Airing down is a must for off road travel, better traction and smoother ride.
Compressor is one of the first things I do to my Jeeps, got a Warn power plant on the newest one, they work pretty well. I can go from 13 to 25 lbs. in 50 seconds on a 33" tire.
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Old 05-04-2010, 11:42 AM   #126
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Going back through your trip report and caught this....

PLEASE oh PLEASE tell me you brought an air compressor?!? Hate to know you got a flat, put your spare on and get another flat, then stuck with two flats... if your spare even has air in it!
Make a stop at the next wally world and get you a bloody air pump and a cheapo tire plug kit, will yah! Unprepared son of A.

Big problem with the typical WallyWorld/Costco air pump is the very low/stroke air volume; it takes forever to air up even a single tire (and mine are only 31/10.5s).

I use a set of Staun deflators (otherwise airing down is a major pain) and a twin cylinder low pressure/high volume pump (cost me about $50). This is one of a number of areas where I don't scrimp. You don't want your decision on airing down/up to be influenced by what a pain it is without the right tools!

Edit: Just as an example, my pump will raise the pressure in one of my tires from 15# (my typical choice for most soft sand situations) back to 35# in less than one minute. And my Stauns will knock all four tires down to 15# in less than two minutes.
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Old 05-04-2010, 12:25 PM   #127
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John---Thanks very much for the trip report so far. I really enjoy your story and pics. For all of us working bastages in Illinois-----------get 'er done !!!
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:40 PM   #128
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John---Thanks very much for the trip report so far. I really enjoy your story and pics. For all of us working bastages in Illinois-----------get 'er done !!!
You're welcome. Just trying to do my part and be a beacon to old men, shut-in's and those trapped in cubicles against their free will.

STILL in OK. Will post pix and report shortly.

John

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I once flew to Chicago just to have some of those wonderful Chicago Hot Dogs...OK, I also went to attend a Packaging Expo...but the Chicago
Dogs were my primary reason for going.
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Old 05-04-2010, 01:59 PM   #129
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Going back through your trip report and caught this....

PLEASE oh PLEASE tell me you brought an air compressor?!? Hate to know you got a flat, put your spare on and get another flat, then stuck with two flats... if your spare even has air in it!
Make a stop at the next wally world and get you a bloody air pump and a cheapo tire plug kit, will yah! Unprepared son of A.
I don't carry no stinking air up and down system. All that sort of stuff in carried in the 3 air conditioned support vehicles behind me.

No air, just one spare. Life's an adventure...Live it...travel without a net! Read my profile.

John

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In case of two flats or major mechanical breakdown, I have a CB and cell phone...Then there's alway walking out for help or pitching my tent and waiting for someone to find me. I got enough Ramen Noodles and extra water to last for two or three days...I'll be alright unless the bears, cows, horses or deer flies carry me off.
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Old 05-04-2010, 02:47 PM   #130
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Earlier today...Just how big is this darn thing?



It just rolls on and on...



And they are in the roads, run in front of you and for good measure, they double back.



Today, the roads were hard, dry and fast, but these ruts did not make themselves.



This is what Mr Kelly of Kelly Oil and Vinnie the Snake warned me about. West of Hwy 81 and under the "right" conditions, the mud in OK will stop you....But not today, I was highballing down those back roads at speeds approaching and sometimes exceeding 50 mph!



Wild Caters in Two-Weeks-From-Everywhere, OK drilling for oil.



OK Convenience Stop.



So I'm motoring down the dry, fast roads and haven't seen so much as a pick up truck in over 30 miles when suddenly I see something running across the road. There's a bunch of them and they look like fat little rats with short legs. They have pot bellies and their tails are pointing straight up to the sky.

I then realize they are Prairie Dogs. They were too quick, I was too slow or both, but I couldn't get a good shot and pinched the one above off the web.



They ran from burrow to burrow, stopped, looked at me, and then shook their tails in defiance. I now realize they must have been across the road in Farmer Brown's wheat fields when I came on them.

Afraid to even look at the map...There may be 900 more miles of OK?

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Old 05-04-2010, 04:13 PM   #131
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I'm enjoying your report very much - it's sometimes difficult to convey the situation in pics as it unfolds. There's always the second guessers and armchair quarterbacks but you're the one that has to deal with the consequences of your choice of route or line.
Cindy and I took an adventure ride today of our own - to Snyder, Tx. We'll be here 'till noon tomorrow(had to come here for a safety class) then on to Carlsbad then backroads to Alamagordo then back to Colo.

I'll stay in touch - if it looks like you're going to beat me to SW Colo we'll hightail it home.

Rick
Rick,

Tonight, I'm only about 6-8 hours from NM. From there, I'll head up to Trinidad where I'll be told the high passes are closed. I'll then drop under CO and swing back up to Dove Creek.

CO will still be there after my grand tour of UT.

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Old 05-04-2010, 04:44 PM   #132
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I don't carry no stinking air up and down system. All that sort of stuff in carried in the 3 air conditioned support vehicles behind me.

No air, just one spare. Life's an adventure...Live it...travel without a net! Read my profile.

John

PS

In case of two flats or major mechanical breakdown, I have a CB and cell phone...Then there's alway walking out for help or pitching my tent and waiting for someone to find me. I got enough Ramen Noodles and extra water to last for two or three days...I'll be alright unless the bears, cows, horses or deer flies carry me off.

John,

JMO but having an adventure doesn't mean going into the wilderness unprepared; it means going into the wilderness prepared but willing to face the unexpected.

Enjoy,

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Old 05-04-2010, 04:56 PM   #133
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Airing down is a must for off road travel, better traction and smoother ride.
Compressor is one of the first things I do to my Jeeps, got a Warn power plant on the newest one, they work pretty well. I can go from 13 to 25 lbs. in 50 seconds on a 33" tire.
33's with a lift and air system is a great set up for off road, but again, everything is a compromise. Each set up is loaded to meet a specific application or usage.

The portion of the TAT I'm running is a blend of many different conditions and I don't think any one set up is ideal for everything I have or will encounter.

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Old 05-04-2010, 05:08 PM   #134
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John,

JMO but having an adventure doesn't mean going into the wilderness unprepared; it means going into the wilderness prepared but willing to face the unexpected.

Enjoy,

Jim
Jim,

If you think the TAT is a wilderness, I don't even know how to respond to your comments.

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Jim,

If you think the TAT is a wilderness, I don't even know how to respond to your comments.

John
Have you ever heard of guys who drowned in a 6" deep puddle of water? Same thing.

It's a wilderness if you are depending on the "kindness of strangers" to save your bacon.

ps. Sorry if I misinterpreted. I had thought you were asking for some opinions from those of us that have been doing this kind of stuff for more than 40 years.

So, never mind . . . carry on!
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