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Old 01-31-2011, 04:50 AM   #1
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Best big DS course in Ontario/Quebec?

Looking for a good one day (or 2 day) off-road course in eastern Ontario or west Quebec to take my big GS. I would love to head to the BMW facility down south but can't afford the time right now.

I have been considering one of the following.

Any personal experiences to share?

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Old 01-31-2011, 06:26 AM   #2
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Old 01-31-2011, 07:08 AM   #3
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I've heard good things about Trail Tours, but they're not really a big bike place, AFAIK. Mostly trials training/enduro training.

If you want to ride the big bike, probably the moto-inter course would be better. Are they running those courses still?

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Old 01-31-2011, 07:49 AM   #4
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Old 01-31-2011, 09:04 AM   #5
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Go to Trail Tours and learn on the lighter smaller enduro/trail bikes. You will learn a lot more and it will be easier on you.
Then take what you learn and apply to the GS by riding with anyone everyone as mentioned

If you really want to step up the skills do a day on a Trials bike
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Old 01-31-2011, 11:47 AM   #6
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I can understand it and speak some.

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Old 01-31-2011, 11:56 AM   #7
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Go to Trail Tours and learn on the lighter smaller enduro/trail bikes. You will learn a lot more and it will be easier on you.
Then take what you learn and apply to the GS by riding with anyone everyone as mentioned

If you really want to step up the skills do a day on a Trials bike
I grew up on dirt bikes and like the trials idea :-) I would much rather take the GS slowly into the dirt bits than get back on an enduro where weight, clutch, gearing etc. are so different.

Maybe now that I have the knobblies, I will tag along for weekday rides in the area a bit more than previous

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Old 02-01-2011, 06:49 AM   #8
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Get in touch with these guys. I'm hoping to do the Spring Training on May 7th.

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Old 02-01-2011, 09:49 AM   #9
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Since you have the Dirt Experience in your past...The Ralley connex stuff is a good start.
Also check into the Shane Watts (Enduro/Trail) and Ryan Young (Trials) schools happening at Trail Tours
You will learn a ton of information that will improve your riding no matter what bike your on.(Trail Tours will provide the bike for those that do not have a suitable one...book early)
http://www.trailtour.com/

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Old 04-03-2011, 08:30 AM   #10
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I highly recommend the BMW Offroad Motorcycle skills course in South Carolina. You ride the GS/GSA or F800GS, you drop it, you learn. You break it, they don't care. Instructors are top notch. One competes in pretty high level Enduro events. You'll learn more in two days than you will all year on your own. This course has already helped me get out of some tough spots (literally) on the trails and given me better riding habits (eyes up!)

It's worth the money and time. Go with a buddy or two to make it really fun!

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Old 04-03-2011, 10:33 AM   #11
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I highly recommend the BMW Offroad Motorcycle skills course in South Carolina.
I'm not familiar with where South Carolina is in ONTARIO or QUEBEC as per the original post.

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Old 04-03-2011, 11:43 PM   #12
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I'm not familiar with where South Carolina is in ONTARIO or QUEBEC as per the original post.

Chill man.

My comments were pursuant to another discussion with the OP. It's within striking distance. Plus they speak a form of English in SC.

Trail Tours looks like just that...a tour...looks like a good time, but I doubt they can match the calibre of instruction of the SC BMW course or Moto-Internationale. For $200, I'll give myself my own tour, thanks. If you hook up with Deadly99 and crew, it'll only cost you Tim Horton's and some beer! And you'll ride your ass off.

Moto-Internationale looks promising - but here's the catch: "NB: you make the course with your bike". Damage to your bike is at your own cost. Not so in SC, you ride thier bikes with no peril. And you'll drop the bike FOR SURE if the exercises are anything like at BMW SC. One exercise they have you do at BMW SC is dump your bike on a 30 degree hill and then recover it. And I've used the technique on rides back home. Does a number on the plastic, mirrors, cylinder covers, etc. That might add up to a plane ticket and a suite at the Greenville Hilton when the day is over when you replace the broken parts on your GSA. Good thing I ride a KLR. And although the instructors are "passionate" and "athletic" at Moto-Internationale they don't seem to have the same experience at Ray Helms, Bill Conger et al. (whom are all all BWM certified). And then there's the language factor.

You might learn more off-road skills (mind you, not on a beast) at MX101 at the Sandelee MX facility. It's cheaper, you use thier bikes and there's more dates on the calendar than M-I.







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Old 04-04-2011, 06:47 AM   #13
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What's the deal with Trail Tours? Looked at their site and they actually hide their address.

"We are located one hour east of Toronto, just 20 minutes south of Peterborough. Once we receive your reservation deposit, we will provide detailed directions to our facilities."

I'm never comfortable parting with my $$ when I don't know who I'm dealing with. No business address, no names, nothin'. But hey they'll take a deposit.
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Old 04-04-2011, 10:58 PM   #14
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Looks like it's Ganaraska Forest. There was a similar outfit doing this years ago on mountain bikes. Similar approach. Wonder if it;'s the same group?
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Old 04-05-2011, 05:49 AM   #15
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I took the Trail Tours Spring Training one day P2D prep course last year with the owner of the company and it was great!

One of the instructors on the course I took was one of the "big bike" instructors. I have no doubt in my mind their big bike course would be worthwhile and I intend on taking it myself. I believe he also competed in the P2D last year as well.
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