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Old 07-13-2010, 12:57 PM   #76
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Interesting report and I enjoyed the photos.... The stacked stone graves are fairly common in small, rural cemeteries up here in the Northeastern Madison County.... In college, I did a semester of directed studies on Southern Burial Customs and Cemeteries and found it to be a fascinating subject...... I once new more about the stacked stone graves, but have long since forgotten I am afraid....

I recall that customs and practices even in Alabama, vary widely from one region of the state to another.... Tennessee Valley had its own set of practices due to the preponderance of early settlers from the Carolinas, Virgina and Georgia....and being predominately Scots-Irish, Irish, English, etc... the wiregrass region down south had its own customs and practices that I recall being quite different from those up here in North Alabama...and of course Mobile with its French/Spanish influences is different still....

Overall, fascinating stuff... and something most of us do not give much thought to..... the old/rural protestant cemeteries are being quickly replaced by the big football field expanses of manicured commercial cemeteries... and it is a shame ...

Thanks for the report !! Keep up the amazing work... and by the way.... I mentioned to the owner of New Market BBQ, that your wife and she went to high school... she was utterly confused.. not understanding how someone here would have any connection to back home in Kentucky... but she put it together and we were both laughing about the "connections" we Southerners seem to have, no matter where we might move to !
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:43 PM   #77
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Interesting report and I enjoyed the photos.... The stacked stone graves are fairly common in small, rural cemeteries up here in the Northeastern Madison County.... In college, I did a semester of directed studies on Southern Burial Customs and Cemeteries and found it to be a fascinating subject...... I once new more about the stacked stone graves, but have long since forgotten I am afraid....

I recall that customs and practices even in Alabama, vary widely from one region of the state to another.... Tennessee Valley had its own set of practices due to the preponderance of early settlers from the Carolinas, Virgina and Georgia....and being predominately Scots-Irish, Irish, English, etc... the wiregrass region down south had its own customs and practices that I recall being quite different from those up here in North Alabama...and of course Mobile with its French/Spanish influences is different still....

Overall, fascinating stuff... and something most of us do not give much thought to..... the old/rural protestant cemeteries are being quickly replaced by the big football field expanses of manicured commercial cemeteries... and it is a shame ...

Thanks for the report !! Keep up the amazing work... and by the way.... I mentioned to the owner of New Market BBQ, that your wife and she went to high school... she was utterly confused.. not understanding how someone here would have any connection to back home in Kentucky... but she put it together and we were both laughing about the "connections" we Southerners seem to have, no matter where we might move to !



Thanks AlabamaCowboy!

I too find the Burial Custom of stacked stone graves to be fascinating.


-Some believe the field stones were placed on graves to deter scavenging animals.

-Others believe it was to show respect.

Very interesting.




I have another lost cemetery to explore this weekend.
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Old 07-13-2010, 04:45 PM   #78
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Ditto on the great pics. Very interesting reading also. Those that have gone before us are part of what we now are. Lets not forget em.

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Old 07-14-2010, 09:01 AM   #79
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I too love the history of this country. I was born and raised in N GA at the bottom of Kennesaw MTN. Grew up playing in the civil war trenches and fox holes as a kid litterally in our back yard. Lived in FLA for a few years and now live in SC. The history in Sc is amazing instead of seeing early to mid 1800s you see 1700 and even 1600 history markers. I may have a clue to the unusual tombs in some of your pics. Watched a recent show on TV about who really discovered America that was very interesting. They said that a Welsch group was believed to have went up Mobile bay and moved thru Al and N GA and later blened in with the natives to form the Mandan tribe in Ohio. This could have been some of thier decendents. The Desoto falls area have caves with remnants of unusual rock buildings/tombs that the locals have callled the Welsch caves for as long as any one can remember. A side note I am probally 1 of 2 people ever to scuba dive at Desoto Falls I talk my buddy into a adventure from hell many years ago. We dragged our 100 pound of gear over boulders for miles to get at the base of the falls. It kicked our ass but it was worth it- ADVSCUBA. Keep it coming

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Old 07-17-2010, 12:16 PM   #80
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Lost cemetery # 9

Lost cemetery # 9


I find myself in the middle of 5 1/2 acres of thick brush.







The final resting place of some 300 people lies hidden all around me.
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Old 07-17-2010, 02:20 PM   #81
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This is a dangerous place.



Hard to believe this was a cemetery.






It is believed that this cemetery was established in 1825.

The last bodies were placed here in 1912.


Let's go look around...



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Old 07-17-2010, 05:14 PM   #82
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This is fantastic! I love old cemetaries and used to photograph them a lot. My favorite one was back in rural IA that you had to hike up a stream to get to. It was a smallish family plot in which a lot of them had died about the same time from the 'plague'. I'm not sure if it was the actual plague or some other devastating outbreak...fascinating and tragic all the same...
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From fathers to brothers, sisters and mothers, they’re all here.






































Time has taken its toll. This cemetery has not seen a burial in over 98 years.



























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Old 07-17-2010, 07:58 PM   #84
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Brilliant once again!!!
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Old 07-18-2010, 05:35 AM   #86
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Most of the markers no longer exist.

Evidence of vandalism is all around.

















Little Mary Alice's grave is but one of several disturbed graves.









This long lost cemetery is listed on the Alabama Historic Cemetery Register.



The cemetery was purchased by the Red Mountain Park in 2009.







I suspect many of the occupants of this lost cemetery were employed at a local iron furnace less than a mile away.

This area was originally known as Ironton and played a major role in the Birmingham iron industry.




In 1876, this was the location of the "Eureka Experiment."


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Eureka Experiment of 1876

The lost cemetery is part of Oxmoor Furnace.



The furnace went into blast in the fall of 1863. It was a busy time in Ironton.

The furnace was nestled along the banks of Shades Creek and became the first blast furnace in Jefferson County.

Pig iron produced here was shipped to the Selma Arsenal and Gun Works. A portion also made its way to the Noble Brothers Foundry in Rome, Georgia.





With the outbreak of the Civil War, it was destroyed on March 30, 1865, by the federal cavalry.


The furnace remained in wrecked condition for years and was rebuilt and enlarged in 1873.












The furnaces of the day all used charcoal as fuel. They consumed massive amounts of wood charcoal.























This location was the site of the famed “Eureka Experiment” in 1876 that proved good quality coke produced from Alabama coal (not charcoal) could be successfully used in the manufacture of pig iron.




The experiment opened the door to the large scale growth of the Birmingham Iron and Steel District that followed.




The furnace went out of blast forever in 1927...
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Old 07-19-2010, 06:29 PM   #88
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Nice pics & History Dave. I hope that Poison Oak / Ivy around those Graves
doesn't bother you
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Some sad folks around to go and dig into graves!

Great reports, keep them coming
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great read. I got here quick as I could.
i'm a naturalized Texan, but my heart is in Alabama. Around Ruffner mountain I would ride the old mining roads all day, and venture into the long forgotten iron ore mines.
Lumber/logging roads, mining roads all through that area..... love it
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