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Old 09-27-2010, 06:00 PM   #106
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That's something I respect about BMW's intro of the F800GS, they [internally] had to duke it out with lawyers about the kind of portrayal of the bike's use and capability. Whether it stands up to the abuse, I dunno, but its a heckuva battle inside the corporation to get that kind of representation OK'd.
Is this the same F800GS that commonly broke drive chains? I guess it's OK to use cheapo Chinese driveline components if the lawyers (and beancounters) approve it eh?

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Old 09-29-2010, 01:45 AM   #107
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Is this the same F800GS that commonly broke drive chains? I guess it's OK to use cheapo Chinese driveline components if the lawyers (and beancounters) approve it eh?

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I was actually a cheapo Czech chain, and at least they are replacing it with an improved cheapo Czech chain under a recall.

My CCC lasted quite well and now I get another one free (and sprockets).

Maybe one day the bean counters at BMW (and elsewhere!) might learn that it costs more to do things cheaply, and it takes longer to do them quickly.
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Old 09-29-2010, 07:26 AM   #108
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I dunno though... water, sand, dirt, being thrown down in mud holes... I wonder if they tested any of this?
Ive told it again and again it's been tested for over a year, in Sewden (wet&muddy) portugal and morocco (hot&verry fine dust "fesh fesh")

My Odo stand on 9229 now, and the only problemss i had were with the Panniers, and they are made not by Yamaha but by an i bielieve Spanishmanufacurer, or was it Itallian i forgot...
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Old 09-29-2010, 08:37 AM   #109
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Excellent! as tough as a Weestrom

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Ive told it again and again it's been tested for over a year, in Sewden (wet&muddy) portugal and morocco (hot&verry fine dust "fesh fesh")

My Odo stand on 9229 now, and the only problemss i had were with the Panniers, and they are made not by Yamaha but by an i bielieve Spanishmanufacurer, or was it Itallian i forgot...
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:16 AM   #110
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MJ, great detailed info. Thanks for sharing. It made great reading and further supports my decision to add this bike to my garage.
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Old 11-03-2010, 08:18 AM   #111
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Excellent! as tough as a Weestrom
The American version of the S10, with no Yamaha stripes, looks more similar to the W-Strom than the Euro version.
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Old 11-03-2010, 09:48 AM   #112
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Ive told it again and again it's been tested for over a year, in Sewden (wet&muddy) portugal and morocco (hot&verry fine dust "fesh fesh")

My Odo stand on 9229 now, and the only problemss i had were with the Panniers, and they are made not by Yamaha but by an i bielieve Spanishmanufacurer, or was it Itallian i forgot...
Well I do not know who built the panniers but they are a waste of money.
As for not having any trouble I too have not had a single issue beside the fact that I can't use a top box due to a letter I recieved from the Local importer saying that there is a problem with the integrity of the back topbox mountig part that I am sure was built by Yamaha.
This to me is a real bummer as I use the bike as my mode of transport and so I have to use the side panniers ( that are sxxt) and are not very comfortable when one tries to weave through city traffic.
I gusse no one is perfect and that includes Yamaha.
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Old 11-03-2010, 10:16 AM   #113
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Well I do not know who built the panniers but they are a waste of money.
As for not having any trouble I too have not had a single issue beside the fact that I can't use a top box due to a letter I recieved from the Local importer saying that there is a problem with the integrity of the back topbox mountig part that I am sure was built by Yamaha.
This to me is a real bummer as I use the bike as my mode of transport and so I have to use the side panniers ( that are sxxt) and are not very comfortable when one tries to weave through city traffic.
I gusse no one is perfect and that includes Yamaha.
Good news is Yamaha has fixed the top box issue, and have started issuing fixes (at least in South Africa, where the problem first showed up).

And the other thing is, if it were me, and I was using the top box just for commuting and not on rough roads, I'd ignore the Yamaha letter and continue using the top box...

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Old 11-03-2010, 11:01 AM   #114
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Well I do not know who built the panniers but they are a waste of money.
As for not having any trouble I too have not had a single issue beside the fact that I can't use a top box due to a letter I recieved from the Local importer saying that there is a problem with the integrity of the back topbox mountig part that I am sure was built by Yamaha.
This to me is a real bummer as I use the bike as my mode of transport and so I have to use the side panniers ( that are sxxt) and are not very comfortable when one tries to weave through city traffic.
I gusse no one is perfect and that includes Yamaha.
Luggage is made by Shad (they also make OEM BMW cases for at least some models).

This bike is also completely trouble-free for me so far (except for the top box issue!). I haven't yet seen a single mechanical problem reported anywhere that wasn't crash-related.

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Old 11-03-2010, 04:19 PM   #115
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Back in the day, I had a 82 XV920J and I invented the Yamaha ADV bike..... I beat the crap out of that ol bike and never had any problems with the final drive. I didn't know you weren't supposted to ride the Virago off road. It went down goat trails to our favorite camping spots. It jumped really well, .......but didn't land real good.
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Old 11-27-2010, 03:05 AM   #116
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Good question and one that I'm not 100% sure on. By removing the speed sensor on the front wheel it will definately turn off the traction control system as that requires the speed sensor to work.

By removing the fuse in the below picture there's a good chance that the speed sensor data is retained and the TCS will continue to work although I'm not entirely sure as we'd already turned off the TCS anyway as the TCS does not work at all well in soft sand sand.

I have not studied the Owners Manual thoroughly yet but maybe it is referenced in there.

LINK to Owners Manual.
As Carlos M. noted, pulling the ABS fuse does not disable any other systems or functions (except the speedo, of course). Therefore, it should be fairly easy to rig up an ABS switch on your own, if you feel it's necessary. My guess is that Yamaha will do it themselves within a year or two.
Thanks for the excellent write-up, MJ.
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Old 11-27-2010, 04:14 AM   #117
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I for one was really looking forward to the arrival of this bike but at a price tag of £13,500 GBP it's simply out of the question. That's a ridiculous retail price for a bike.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...to-cost-13500/
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Old 11-27-2010, 09:00 AM   #118
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As Carlos M. noted, pulling the ABS fuse does not disable any other systems or functions (except the speedo, of course). Therefore, it should be fairly easy to rig up an ABS switch on your own, if you feel it's necessary. My guess is that Yamaha will do it themselves within a year or two.
Thanks for the excellent write-up, MJ.
By pulling the solitary ABS motor fuse attached to the starter solenoid, only the ABS is disabled. Speedo and TCS still work, I know I tried it.
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Old 11-27-2010, 05:29 PM   #119
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I for one was really looking forward to the arrival of this bike but at a price tag of £13,500 GBP it's simply out of the question. That's a ridiculous retail price for a bike.

http://www.motorcyclenews.com/MCN/Ne...to-cost-13500/
Come to Australia if you want ridiculous prices... oh no need I forgot about the internet. (XT12Z is 200 pounds cheaper here, but we're a lot closer to Japan)

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Old 11-27-2010, 05:34 PM   #120
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if you feel it's necessary. My guess is that Yamaha will do it themselves within a year or two..
Do read threads, please?

Its compulsory in 2013/2017 tohave a non switcahble ABS on *any bike larger than 125cc...
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