Ultra gravel-traveller. RC8´ed Adv-S... - Page 2

Balsta · 07-04-2010, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Locul@hotmail.com

Not that i´m any nearer the project but something got aside this day.

It is possible to mount the engine. The images is from Robie Peterson(hillclimber). As you see its a LC8 frame without to much touchup...

This is very good information.

I have exactly the same plans as you for my SE06 after 75000 km. New RC8 engine. Winterproject 20111-2012 perhaps. Im afraid the ground clearance will suffer too much. How many centimeters (inches) do you guess from the photos? My other major concern is space for the radiator. I dont want the FI. Pity the FCRs are only available in max 41 mm. Why not just put the 43 mm vacuum carbs and keep the aftermarket exhaust for the 950? Say less power on full rpms but prob a tremendous bottom force!! And...forget about the "too much for the frame..." Much more (>300 hp) is required to twist these.

Balsta · 07-04-2010, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mousitsas

...I also think that 150bhp is not what this frame, suspension, swingarm etc are made for. Just have a look at how different the swingarms between the 950 and RC8 are....

I think the RC8 fat frame and swingarm is more for stability and non-wobbling at +300 km/h. Mechanical sturdyness cant be an issue. Suspension and brakes is for speed, not for power and torque.

LocuL · 07-04-2010, 01:25 PM

I don´t think that ground clearance would be to bad for the Adv. Anyway i´ll do the 320 or 300mm suspension. If you are thinking hardcore enduro with a RC8 SE it could probably be a problem, but then you will have many other concerns as controlling 150+ hp on wet logs...

I do agree that the radiator can give some problems. I was hoping i could keep the LC8 radiator and double fan it. But space is tight.

As i said, i dont think clearance would be a problem as long we are talking adventure riding.

Mikael

jamesbrown · 07-04-2010, 01:39 PM

Wow, I'm surprised that fits so well. Looks like the stock radiator might fit down low in between the sump and the head, a little further back than stock (depending on routing of the header):

Balsta · 07-04-2010, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Locul@hotmail.com

I do agree that the radiator can give some problems...But space is tight.

Mikael

Youre right, ground clearance is not an issue BUT
No way my radiator would fit there

I think they had to tilt the motor forward a little
Ill go for a "hotrod" LC8 990 instead

DirtyADV · 07-04-2010, 02:31 PM

Maybe the radiator can be mounted they way they had them on old three wheelers?

P.S have a red tecate from -85 =)

/Johan

Benz · 07-04-2010, 04:16 PM

The rad will fit. Just can't run a fender.

jamesbrown · 07-04-2010, 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Benz

The rad will fit. Just can't run a fender.

I'm not so sure under full compression of the front forks with a 21" front wheel; and if Locul's past exploits are anything to go by, it will be used under full compression

Benz · 07-04-2010, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jamesbrown

I'm not so sure under full compression of the front forks with a 21" front wheel; and if Locul's past exploits are anything to go by, it will be used under full compression

I still think there's plenty of room with no fender, or a modified one anyway. If you mount it right above the sump up against the cylinder head it looks like there will be more clearance than on the RC8. I'm just judging by pics. I really have no idea what I'm talking about.

jamesbrown · 07-04-2010, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Benz

I still think there's plenty of room with no fender, or a modified one anyway. If you mount it right above the sump up against the cylinder head it looks like there will be more clearance than on the RC8. I'm just judging by pics. I really have no idea what I'm talking about.

Likewise

However, the front header pipe needs to go somewhere....

charlie264 · 07-04-2010, 04:59 PM

And Peterson run there 950 LC8's on Nitro, only 200bhp. 1190 Nitro in dirt!!! Just mad.

Benz · 07-04-2010, 05:13 PM

Why not just take a 990 motor and have a bunch of work done to it? It will handle much better in the chasis and have a better power curve for your type of riding. You can do a lot of stuff I would imagine. Porting and polishing the heads, valve job, forged internals with high compression pistons, balanced and blueprinted. Have a shop make a custom ecu tune for it and that would be a pretty beast motor.

Pete640 · 07-05-2010, 03:30 AM

I say go for it - experimenting only improves the breed - hell KTM will do it sooner or later. If a crowd in Austria or thereabouts can put a merc diesel in one than why not the RC8? I like your thinking - now get to work.
What a great way to destroy a nobbie rear......

Pete

SSrider · 07-05-2010, 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HWSNBN

If I was just divorced, I'd not waste my time wrenching when I would pick up a perfectly good 950 and hit South America with a handful of dollars and a boxful of condoms... just sayin'

HERE HERE !!! HIT THE ROAD JACK !!

tommytiger · 07-05-2010, 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Locul@hotmail.com

2: Touratech tanks front and 2x10l back.

so you will have 64 liters with you in your 300kg KTM

07-04-2010, 01:25 PM	#18
LocuL ^OP Gnarly Infantry Joined: Dec 2006 Location: Denmark - Jutland Oddometer: 920	I don´t think that ground clearance would be to bad for the Adv. Anyway i´ll do the 320 or 300mm suspension. If you are thinking hardcore enduro with a RC8 SE it could probably be a problem, but then you will have many other concerns as controlling 150+ hp on wet logs... I do agree that the radiator can give some problems. I was hoping i could keep the LC8 radiator and double fan it. But space is tight. As i said, i dont think clearance would be a problem as long we are talking adventure riding. Mikael __________________ KTM 950(1190) Adv-s, Soon to be Project 1190 KTM 530 EXC-R 08

07-04-2010, 02:31 PM	#21
DirtyADV Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jan 2007 Location: SWEDEN, Skellefteå Oddometer: 1,447	Maybe the radiator can be mounted they way they had them on old three wheelers? P.S have a red tecate from -85 =) /Johan __________________ Have changed name, was previously Dirty950 www.dirtyadv.com (under construction)

07-04-2010, 04:16 PM	#22
Benz Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Oddometer: 351	The rad will fit. Just can't run a fender. __________________ 2010 BMW GSA 2010 Triumph Street Triple

07-04-2010, 04:59 PM	#26
charlie264 Beastly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2007 Location: Blighty Oddometer: 5,197	And Peterson run there 950 LC8's on Nitro, only 200bhp. 1190 Nitro in dirt!!! Just mad. __________________ Beauty is truth and truth is beauty. Charlie's Side Stand Relocator.

07-04-2010, 05:13 PM	#27
Benz Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Jun 2009 Oddometer: 351	Why not just take a 990 motor and have a bunch of work done to it? It will handle much better in the chasis and have a better power curve for your type of riding. You can do a lot of stuff I would imagine. Porting and polishing the heads, valve job, forged internals with high compression pistons, balanced and blueprinted. Have a shop make a custom ecu tune for it and that would be a pretty beast motor. __________________ 2010 BMW GSA 2010 Triumph Street Triple

07-04-2010, 01:39 PM	#19
jamesbrown Lefty tighty. Joined: Nov 2007 Location: Gone Oddometer: 6,413	Wow, I'm surprised that fits so well. Looks like the stock radiator might fit down low in between the sump and the head, a little further back than stock (depending on routing of the header):

07-05-2010, 03:30 AM	#28
Pete640 I hate sand....... Joined: Nov 2008 Location: Sanding something in the shed... Oddometer: 1,113	950/990 vs whatever I say go for it - experimenting only improves the breed - hell KTM will do it sooner or later. If a crowd in Austria or thereabouts can put a merc diesel in one than why not the RC8? I like your thinking - now get to work. What a great way to destroy a nobbie rear...... Pete __________________ Pete For those who sit at home and dream - let them... Meoni 03 950 Adventure RR - aux tanks and other bling http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=611461

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