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Old 07-05-2010, 01:48 PM   #31
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so you will have 64 liters with you in your 300kg KTM
I should answer that question.

When i do the "long haul" riding. Highway stuff ala Autostrada Germany or likewise. I would like the option of +900km. When riding normal roads and standard gravelroads I will not feel the actually weight. I think i can adapt to weight. Its when it gets technical or twisty the fun starts. Beside that, when it tip over someday fully loaded, im in a great shape and would lift it without big efforts.
But yes i would like to have the options for 64l. Though im not all into how you can stretch the RC8R engine at normal daypace.

Benz:
I dont have interest in working with the 950/990 engine. As a matter of fact i have one sitting in a crate with a lost 6th gear. I could make that a crazyhorse.
If i can get a RC8R around 25.000 Dkr(3600euro) with low milage ithink that project in it own screams for the test. It would probably cost the same to make a 990 insane. And i will not tune the RC8R, reliability is the way. Not that i think the LC8 couldnt take the beating.

RC8R is my choise. If it fails im a way more poor man than before...though a bit more clever.

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Ps: As mentioned before it will take months before the first step. Patience.

Keep comming with "your thoughts". Bad and Good.
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Old 07-05-2010, 05:34 PM   #32
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I was eyeing a wrecked RC8 at the dealer and it looks very doable....

It will definately be a good learning curve trying to make everything fit together nicely and be reliable at the same time.

Kudos for trying and keep us posted man, good luck
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:44 AM   #33
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I love my RC8 and I love my Adventure. However, I doubt I would love a 1148cc Adventure as much.

Why? The engine/throttle response on the RC8 is all wrong for dirt and the adventure chassis shakes its head a bit with 95hp, I can't imagine >150hp pumping through it.

I look forward to reading the rest of this thread, but I'll stick to two separate bikes...
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Old 07-06-2010, 01:29 PM   #34
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The day got even better.

From Robie Peterson:

locul,
The RC8 in the Super Enduro frame has worked well. A very easy, almost bolt in conversion. We are running just methanol currently and putting out as much horsepower as the 950's on 50% nitromethane!! It is less violent than a nitro burner but still puts out big numbers. We have had zero mechanical issues once we got it dialed in.
For your street/dual sport conversion you will only need to fabricate the front motor mount brackets. The rear pivot mount and lower rear motor mount are identical to the 950. We do not run a cooling system, obviously that will be something else you will have to tackle.
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-06-2010, 02:07 PM   #35
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The day got even better.

From Robie Peterson:

locul,
The RC8 in the Super Enduro frame has worked well. A very easy, almost bolt in conversion. We are running just methanol currently and putting out as much horsepower as the 950's on 50% nitromethane!! It is less violent than a nitro burner but still puts out big numbers. We have had zero mechanical issues once we got it dialed in.
For your street/dual sport conversion you will only need to fabricate the front motor mount brackets. The rear pivot mount and lower rear motor mount are identical to the 950. We do not run a cooling system, obviously that will be something else you will have to tackle.
GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!!
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Old 07-07-2010, 06:59 AM   #36
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Going to watch this very closely because I too have been contemplating this swap. I'm just waiting for my 950 engine to grow old and die which, if all indications are correct, might just be another 50000 to 75000 miles!

I guess I've got some riding to do.

So many people have made mention of how the stock 950 engine is already a great dual sport engine and, if anything, all it needs is more low end.

My opinion...It's a 950cc V-twin! It's got PLENTY of low end! Frankly, the kind of power that the RC8 provides makes me drool. If you're riding technical singletrack, short shift and lug the RC8 in a range where it'll be docile. When you hit the pavement and it's time to disturb the peace, let her sing in the higher rpm's where the full 150 hp is available

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Old 07-07-2010, 07:50 AM   #37
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Mikael, do you plan to use the FI system of the RC8 or the carbs of your 950?
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And again, easy advriders...

Yep I plan on using the engine as stock as possible.

Tehcnical singletrack will not be on the list when the RC8R is mounted.

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Old 07-08-2010, 02:40 AM   #39
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And again, easy advriders...

Yep I plan on using the engine as stock as possible.

Tehcnical singletrack will not be on the list when the RC8R is mounted.

Mikael
Great plan. The RC8 doesn't like to lug, it's meant to be at wide open throttle all the time.
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And again, easy advriders...

Yep I plan on using the engine as stock as possible.

Tehcnical singletrack will not be on the list when the RC8R is mounted.

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Old 08-03-2010, 01:03 AM   #41
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For the project i need some pictures. Just to estimate the widenes of the bike.
The need is: Front view with 45l tanks fittet VS a front view with the standard tanks. Well just put up a picture with the 45l if you find any.

Regards
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Ps: I should have a RC8R engine in the end of Sep(only2-3000km). Maybe start sep if lucky.

Progress is slow but steady.
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Old 08-03-2010, 05:09 AM   #42
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For the project i need some pictures. Just to estimate the widenes of the bike.
The need is: Front view with 45l tanks fittet VS a front view with the standard tanks. Well just put up a picture with the 45l if you find any.

Regards
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Ps: I should have a RC8R engine in the end of Sep(only2-3000km). Maybe start sep if lucky.

Progress is slow but steady.
Damn it Mikael, Ill come visit you when you get that engine ..

Maybe ill bring the "little one" and we can go for a ride..

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Old 08-03-2010, 05:50 AM   #43
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You are always welcome.

Actually think the lc8 should be great in the lc4.

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Old 08-03-2010, 01:30 PM   #44
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Eh?

Well i need some knowledge(again, again and again).

Ive got some thoughts about the higher gearing on the RC8R vs the old LC8. I have a scale were i can calculate external gearing(front and rear).
I know that the secondary gearing on RC8 is 17:37 and the LC8 is 17:42.
If im right I cant just compare those...ehh? I guess i have to know the primary gearing as well to make any reasoneble comparing?

RC8R: Primary - 40:76 Secondary - 17:37
LC8 : Primary - 67:35 Secondary - 17:42
(text is copypasted from KTMs manuals as written)

Could/would anyone help me in this?

Sry for shitty english(29yo and still learning)

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Old 08-03-2010, 01:37 PM   #45
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Mikael,

Sounds like a pretty cool project, serious work involved but great to have something that you created yourself at the end of it.

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