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Old 03-26-2011, 03:42 PM   #121
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I believe the American term is "Fat guy in a little coat!" haha
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Old 04-05-2011, 02:55 PM   #122
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While the project stalls for another excercise before ISAF. IŽm having some thoughts about how to cut and "repair" the tanks. I have never done this before and need some guiding. I will be cutting to make room for new enginestuff hanging in the way.
My thoughts are cut the pieces out and re-weld it again. But i donŽt understand the process of welding this type of plastic or any at all? I suppose its not only a heatgun project!!
K2M you made your own tanks. Was it the same material?
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Old 04-05-2011, 06:34 PM   #123
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I must admit I have been giving this a lot of thought, and the best solution a comes to mind is the Safari SE tank. At 30 liters it would be a nice simple solution if it fits. Perhaps one of the SE boys could comment/photo the underside.

This would be my first choice.



Slight off-topic but as this thread has rich entertainment value I shall attempt to entertain.

Back in the late 70's I used to race enduro. These days I still race in vintage enduro (Vinduro) I have a 1976 WR 360. The wanting to be competitive side of me has added 77 suspension, also for safety a TLS front brake off an 84 500.

Cotton clothing and a pristine 84 Bell moto4 (full body armour, good boots) complete the look

I just scored an original Mossbarger hi-flow reed with Boost bottle.

I love playing with this old stuff as I feel 20 years younger. I bumped into a mate I rode with in 78. I had not seen him for 28 years











As my old 1978 mate organises the vinduro's I get to help set up the course and during the race day I do one or two laps on the Husky and then ride "Sweep" on my modern (the perfect contrast), like Soren GasGas 300

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Old 04-05-2011, 08:33 PM   #124
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I must admit I have been giving this a lot of thought, and the best solution a comes to mind is the Safari SE tank. At 30 liters it would be a nice simple solution if it fits. Perhaps one of the SE boys could comment/photo the underside.

This would be my first choice.
Heres the underside of a safari
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Old 04-05-2011, 08:52 PM   #125
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It might be easier to "remake" the tank in fiberglass rather than cutting and plastic welding the OEM part. Im saying this because one of the guys I work with does plastic repairs as a part timer and has a HF welding unit. He isnt too keen on modifying these type of parts because of the fuel impregnation and possible failures. Maybe someone has a mould of the OEM tank and can make you a part that can be easily modified on the frame side - keeping the stock outer look. Fiberglass safari tanks would be even better IMO. No swelling of deformation......
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Old 04-06-2011, 06:05 AM   #126
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depending on how much interference you have why can't you just shim it out of the frame a bit instead of cutting?
Easier to do that than messing around with the tanks me thinks
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Old 04-06-2011, 11:41 AM   #127
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depending on how much interference you have why can't you just shim it out of the frame a bit instead of cutting?
Easier to do that than messing around with the tanks me thinks
What do mean with shimming? Heatgun?

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Old 04-06-2011, 11:50 AM   #128
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What do mean with shimming? Heatgun?


Think he means using a few washers to space out the tank enough to get clearence.

Love the build =)

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Old 04-06-2011, 12:58 PM   #129
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ahhh...thanks

pics will follow...

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Old 04-06-2011, 04:33 PM   #130
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As promised.

Front view of left side. Oil filler is the problem.


View from the left side. Problem is the "enginepiece 10-11 oŽclock.




Right side view. Problem is waterpump exit and oilcooler.


Right side front view. Problem is clearly the oilcooler and waterpump exit behind it. And maybe the engine mount...


Some rough drawing of the cutting-to-be...


And sorry for the crappy shaky phone pictures. But you probably get the picture(s).

The bike got delivered at the guys who will make the engine mounts and all the alu work. He was very comfortable talking with, regarding the difficulties in the various stuff to get done. He even had a slight contact to some business who could weld the tanks.
This is going very slow and steady because i apperently have to work some time. gosh...but i still enjoy the slow rolling snowball which gets bigger and bigger. It is still a HUGE challenge and make my head spin, though looking at all the bikes roaring around town makes me wanna ride soon.

So cut down to small topics its:

1: Engine mounts
2: Which will support skidplate( though have to be aware of the exhaust routing)
3: Cooler mount(s)ed and the piping for the cooler(is it hoses? )
4: bla
5: bla
6: bla
...
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Ps:This saturday i got a 2nd overall at a Danish 3 hours +1 round, Enduro. IŽm so happy to make progress with my physical training.





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Old 04-06-2011, 04:47 PM   #131
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Think he means using a few washers to space out the tank enough to get clearence.

Love the build =)

/Johan
Yup Johan got it.
Just looking at the pictures though, looks like you'll need more than that.
The oil fill tube would be easy enough to extend somewhere usable but you still have the issue on the oil cooler side. Unless you can mount that remotelly, shimming the tank wouldn't work very well, from what I can see it's sticking way out there. Maybe cutting and welding the tanks is looking better and better.
On a side note congrats on your Enduro training

That my friend is as good as it gets

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Old 04-06-2011, 05:17 PM   #132
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Then i thought it could be great fun to build an offroad FJR. My thoughts are fast on the tarmac and smooth on the gravel.



http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...62876&page=222

There is a picture of a Ninja turned to the knobby side on this page

You could PM the guy and get his take on it ...
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Old 04-06-2011, 06:15 PM   #133
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I reckon you could remove/shorten the oil filler and just use a shorter dipstick.

You could relocate the oil cooler? Not sure what the implications are for water or oil flow - but you could mount it remotely and extend the oil/water connections to it?

Depending what that leaves you with, maybe the simplest option then is to live with the tanks being a bit wider? (referring to adiablolex's suggestion of shimming out the bottom mounts)
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Old 04-06-2011, 07:26 PM   #134
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While the project stalls for another excercise before ISAF. IŽm having some thoughts about how to cut and "repair" the tanks. I have never done this before and need some guiding. I will be cutting to make room for new enginestuff hanging in the way.
My thoughts are cut the pieces out and re-weld it again. But i donŽt understand the process of welding this type of plastic or any at all? I suppose its not only a heatgun project!!
K2M you made your own tanks. Was it the same material?
ISAF.....Where ya going? Bagram, Kirkuk.....?
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Old 04-06-2011, 08:12 PM   #135
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I've been comparing pictures that Safari tank looks to be the answer. You could sell your ADV tanks to finance it.

Don't try to modify those tanks as they will leak like sieve's and be worthless. We cannot even find a good solution for a cracked tank.

http://advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=674465

I will do a story on my tanks but it will take time and I am flat out working on mine at the moment :-)
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