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Old 06-03-2010, 07:00 AM   #1
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Steering damper on F650GS Dakar

Has anyone ever fitted scotts steering damper to a standard 2005 F650 Dakar?
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Old 06-03-2010, 08:07 AM   #2
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It's been done.

It'll require some work, as there are no off the shelf solutions. You might try looking through this thread for ideas:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399113
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Old 06-03-2010, 10:48 AM   #3
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i think that if you need a steering dampener on this bike there is something wrong with your suspension.
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Old 06-03-2010, 06:11 PM   #4
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i think that if you need a steering dampener on this bike there is something wrong with your suspension.
or....just maybe...they're riding the piss out of it compared to you....
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:37 AM   #5
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It's been done.

It'll require some work, as there are no off the shelf solutions. You might try looking through this thread for ideas:

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399113
I went throught it, could only find one, custom tripple clamp.
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Old 06-04-2010, 02:40 AM   #6
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i think that if you need a steering dampener on this bike there is something wrong with your suspension.
I dont need it, but I felt the difference on other bikes with damper on, and I want to put one on my bike.
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Old 06-04-2010, 04:35 AM   #7
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Unless you have changed the suspension there is no point in getting one.
Get a decent shock, raising links and a set of USD forks. When the front is loaded correctly, the damper only comes in handy at 60mph+

Actually I have not heard of a single F650GS do a tank slapper so not needed in terms of safety. If you are riding sand however, then the stock suspension is no better than a coiled of Boer Worst.
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Old 06-04-2010, 04:44 AM   #8
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Unless you have changed the suspension there is no point in getting one.
Get a decent shock, raising links and a set of USD forks. When the front is loaded correctly, the damper only comes in handy at 60mph+

Actually I have not heard of a single F650GS do a tank slapper so not needed in terms of safety. If you are riding sand however, then the stock suspension is no better than a coiled of Boer Worst.
Closest I've ever come to a tank slapper was about five years ago. I was doing about 75 or so on the NJ Turnpike, and found myself forced into an abrupt lane shift, far faster than I would have liked. The front end (I was still on stock suspension at the time) went into more of a 'quick weave' than a tank slapper, with probably 8 or 10 oscillations before it settled itself down. Once I extracted the seat from my rectum I was fine.
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Old 06-04-2010, 05:53 AM   #9
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or....just maybe...they're riding the piss out of it compared to you....


++++1 on that.

I'm working on an under-bar mount for a Scotts right now.

True you don't really need one unless you are riding seriously fast off road; however... the whole reason I went with USD WP forks and lightened up my bike is so I could keep riding with guys on KTMs, Huskys etc. These guys can ride up goat trails then blast down a jeep trail at 80 mph. Scares the bejeezus out of me personally and sometimes I choose not to follow. A heavier bike like the F650 does not take kindly to big air and even when lightened down to 335# like mine I want a little security.

So the damper for me helps with high speed deep sand washes and fast riding. Out west many of the good/fun trails are simply dry riverbeds and anyone who rides sand knows you need to keep your speed up.

But I digress. My solution is to make an aluminum plate machined to fit on top of my WP top triple clamp to allow the Scotts to fit underneath the bar and over the steering head bolt. I already have risers, so I'm making this part plus getting longer riser bolts and making a tower bracket to fit at the bottom on the two torx bolts that hold the plastic battery cover just under the steering head.

This won't work for some people but I could possibly make a taller tower for those who don't want the rise and find a bar mount that would work.

I will post pics when I have some.
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Old 06-07-2010, 03:42 PM   #10
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++++1 on that.

I'm working on an under-bar mount for a Scotts right now.

True you don't really need one unless you are riding seriously fast off road; however... the whole reason I went with USD WP forks and lightened up my bike is so I could keep riding with guys on KTMs, Huskys etc. These guys can ride up goat trails then blast down a jeep trail at 80 mph. Scares the bejeezus out of me personally and sometimes I choose not to follow. A heavier bike like the F650 does not take kindly to big air and even when lightened down to 335# like mine I want a little security.

So the damper for me helps with high speed deep sand washes and fast riding. Out west many of the good/fun trails are simply dry riverbeds and anyone who rides sand knows you need to keep your speed up.

But I digress. My solution is to make an aluminum plate machined to fit on top of my WP top triple clamp to allow the Scotts to fit underneath the bar and over the steering head bolt. I already have risers, so I'm making this part plus getting longer riser bolts and making a tower bracket to fit at the bottom on the two torx bolts that hold the plastic battery cover just under the steering head.

This won't work for some people but I could possibly make a taller tower for those who don't want the rise and find a bar mount that would work.

I will post pics when I have some.
i'm surprised scotts doesn't have something with the right bolt spacing already to match up to the wp stuff.

also..you got a link to some pics of your bike? piqued my interest in a f650 that weighs 335
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Old 12-22-2010, 11:46 AM   #11
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Ralle-Moto steering damper

Hi guys,

We have been getting allot of enquiries about the 650 dakar single for a steering damper so we have developed a kit for this bike with our new RM2 damper.

It fits on to the standard top triple clamp, the only mod needed is a 30mm set of bar risers and then the damper tucks away neatly under the handlebars.



Check out this thread or PM me for more info.
New ralle moto rm2 steering damper
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