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Old 06-08-2010, 04:48 AM   #1
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Heidenau K60 vs Mitas E07

Yeah, another tyre thread, I know.

It's rear tyre time again on my DR650
The 50/50 style are generally ok for me given that I value good wear.
Previously been happy enough with Mitas E07
Thinking about trying Heidenau K60

1/ Never actually seen the K60, are they roughly as "chunky" as the E07?

2/ What mileage can you report from K60 on DR650 or similar size/weight bike?

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Old 06-08-2010, 05:40 AM   #2
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K60's

I have k60's f+r. Oh i ride a v-strom 650. Now have 9000kms on them and they show little wear. Could't guess what milage i'll get but it will easily 25000kms. I ride mostly tar but also dirt roads not bush bashing. Its often loaded with camping gear at 110>130kmph. Wasn't confident on tar till i ran 36and 42 psi. Now all good. I can't believe how NOISY they are, much more than tkc80s. Paid $400 not fitted about 6mths ago. 110/80/19---150/ /17

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Old 06-08-2010, 06:37 AM   #3
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Hi SC, where do you buy the k60s from and how many $ for them? thanks.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:08 AM   #4
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Looks like you have to be careful when evaluating input because there seems to be a huge difference between sizes
(as discussed in other topics, for example Heidenau K60 - where?).
Personally I wouldn't buy them again in the DR size, but it's a bit of a religious matter anyways.
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Old 06-08-2010, 07:21 AM   #5
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Looks like you have to be careful when evaluating input because there seems to be a huge difference between sizes
(as discussed in other topics, for example Heidenau K60 - where?).
Personally I wouldn't buy them again in the DR size, but it's a bit of a religious matter anyways.
Thanks for the link. I've just read through that thread again. As you say most people are discussing the 140 & 150 sizes. Would you mind telling of your experience & mileage with the 130/80x17? Why wouldn't you buy it again? What are you using instead?

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Old 06-08-2010, 08:11 AM   #6
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"I picked up a K60 down in Tassie after the rear Karoo (not T) wore out after 5500km of 30% dirt (the 70% was about 1k commuting and the rest on winding roads during the trip) and the front Karoo was in real good shape, so I thought I just get a bit tougher rear for the Dakar.

After fitting a 130/80x17 K60, I expected it to outlast the (supposedly half worn) front Karoo. Now, another 6000km later the front Karoo is almost gone (another week of commuting and replaced) and by that time the K60 will be almost over as well. The use was about 2k gravel at 80-100kmph and a bit of sandy track and the rest nailing it back on the Alpine road and Hume and commuting since with about 2k weekend tar laps.

So, conclusion is with this kind of mixed use, I would think the 130 K60 doesn't last that much longer than the Karoo rear. On gravel they were pretty much the same, on tar it's a lot more precise (got rid of the yawing) and obviously less noisy. The rear isn't too bad in sand but I wouldn't want to run a front in those conditions.

Not sure why I got these results. Maybe too much weight on the rear on the Dakar (moderately loaded) explains the front, but I would have expected more out of the K60. The 140 MUST be different compound as this one wouldn't last 2k on a pig. I will be sticking with the front Karoo and still on the look out for a tougher rear with similar pattern. Maybe I give a shot to the MEFO's (I also have a 80% set of Sahara 3 but that feels softer) next time..which is due in about a week or so."

Maybe I was a bit harsh (and it's subjective), but really, if a more aggressive alternative holds up better than a compromise tire, then why bother?
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Old 06-08-2010, 05:50 PM   #7
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Ive had k60s on my 1200gs for about 7000k and they're still good. Only problem is you cant get them anymore, unless you find old stock.
Pablo's told me they wont be available until the end of the year if at all. They advised I switch to Mitas
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Old 06-08-2010, 06:07 PM   #8
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I notice that the K60 120/90 x 17 is much cheaper than the 130/80 x 17

Interested in peoples mileage and grip (on and offroad) on either of these sizes on a DR650
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I've just fitted a K60. No particular expectations, just giving it a go.

A few times previously I've enquired about the 120/90x17 ($130.00) only to be told it wasn't available in the forseeable future.

Recently asked again through local shop and importer/distributor told them the same thing, so I ordered a 130/80x17 (a lot dearer $186.00).

Went out to get it yesterday, and checked it before fitting. Was labelled as 130/80 and local shop was invoiced for 130/80 but tyre was actually 120/90.

No fault of local shop and may have simply been a genuine mistake on part of importer distributor but if you're ordering a 130/80 it might be worth checking that you get what you pay for, or at least only pay for what you get.

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Old 10-31-2010, 03:23 PM   #10
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I notice that the K60 120/90 x 17 is much cheaper than the 130/80 x 17

Interested in peoples mileage and grip (on and offroad) on either of these sizes on a DR650
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I can tell you this.... the K60 in 120/90 and 130/80 are half the tire that the K60 140/80 is.

I just put a set (K60's) 130/80/17 & 90/90/21 on my '08 DR650. Side by side comparison with my buddies 800GS with a K60 140/80 shows a huge difference. Even new, off the bikes, side by side the K60 140/80 has twice the depth of tread of the K60 130/80.

Will see in Africa how they hold up.... Still feel the best running all around tire on the DR is a 130/80 TKC 80. The K60's (not the 140) just look shallow and wimpy on the bike.

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Old 10-31-2010, 07:18 PM   #11
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Had K60s f & r on my DR. Good tyre on the tar. Shocking in mud, changed to knobbies after being put on my arse 5 or 6 times in one day. Rear showed significant wear after 1600 kms wouldn't expect great mileage from them. Wouldn't but them again for my riding far better off on Dunlop 606s.
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