Anger Management?

ctfz1 · 06-10-2010, 07:37 AM

QUESTION:
HOW much of cruiser popularity is based on loud pipes?
What % of cruisers are loud?
How much popularity is based on shiny bits to play with?
Personal note: I WILL ride almost any bike I can, my next bike might be a cruiser (leg trouble), it will not have loud pipes or ape hangers, etc,
Do not find rigids anything but perverse.
Specialization is fine for people who always know where they are going and how long, my view is I can choose as I go so I like bikes that can do all the rides I do.
My favorite cruiser engines were the early 80's Shadows (revy 6 speed 750's) and Magna V45, near as I can tell 90's Magna come closest.
Any comments?
Title anticipates some respones.
Looking at a couple Used Kawa Vulcans, you guessed it, loud pipes and no oems.

Dismount · 06-10-2010, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by ctfz1

QUESTION:
HOW much of cruiser popularity is based on loud pipes?
What % of cruisers are loud?
How much popularity is based on shiny bits to play with?
Personal note: I WILL ride almost any bike I can, my next bike might be a cruiser (leg trouble), it will not have loud pipes or ape hangers, etc,
Do not find rigids anything but perverse.
Specialization is fine for people who always know where they are going and how long, my view is I can choose as I go so I like bikes that can do all the rides I do.
My favorite cruiser engines were the early 80's Shadows (revy 6 speed 750's) and Magna V45, near as I can tell 90's Magna come closest.
Any comments?
Title anticipates some respones.
Looking at a couple Used Kawa Vulcans, you guessed it, loud pipes and no oems.

Own a used c-50. It came with idiot loud pipes. Put stock back on at the earliest opportunity.

Went croozer for knee pain. Basically traded in aching knee for aching ass/hips.

haithabu · 06-10-2010, 08:23 AM

Check the Vulcan 750. There's an easy mod which prevents it from popping during deceleration and then it's not too loud. Unlike many cruiser engines, it doesn't flatten out at higher revs. Twist the throttle at over 6000 rpm and it will suddenly turn into a sports bike. The engine will scream and pull away very strong.

Pluses: a light cruiser that's good in twisties, good downtown and will beat any cruiser under 1500cc. Shaft drive.

Drawback: You'll want an aftermarket seat for long runs. Some of them seem to have persistent carb issues.

DAKEZ · 06-10-2010, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by haithabu

Pluses: a light cruiser that's good in twisties, ...

rivercreep · 06-10-2010, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DAKEZ

Hey now!
It might depend somewhat on the rider...

My Ex-Wife had a 650 Savage (not really known for a good suspension) and I really enjoyed riding the thing once in a while. The thing made a really nice sound and threw up lots of cool sparks when railed through the turns.
Had a few pucker moments for sure but...it was light and easy to control.
Did better than I ever expected a Cruiser to be able to.

Good luck on your quest.
F.W.I.W. If (and since) I can only afford 1 Bike, it's got to be a do it all D.S. like my DR650.

Uncle Ernie · 06-10-2010, 10:15 AM

Honda ST1100- 1300?
Triumph America?
BMW 1200C?

AlanCT · 06-10-2010, 12:44 PM

[quote=haithabu]Check the Vulcan 750. There's an easy mod which prevents it from popping during deceleration and then it's not too loud. Unlike many cruiser engines, it doesn't flatten out at higher revs. Twist the throttle at over 6000 rpm and it will suddenly turn into a sports bike. The engine will scream and pull away very strong.

Pluses: a light cruiser that's good in twisties, good downtown and will beat any cruiser under 1500cc. Shaft drive.

Drawback: You'll want an aftermarket seat for long runs. Some of them seem to have persistent carb issues.[/quote

I had one of these for awhile. Centerstand, tach, hydraulic valves, shaft drive.

Mine also had persistent carb issues.

The floats kept getting stuck and flooding it. I thought it looked good, in a sort of '80's techno-Jap kind of way. It had plenty of power and the seating position was fairly neutral for a cruiser. I sold it to get the Concours for LD riding and touring.

DirtyOldMan · 06-10-2010, 04:49 PM

I had a Magna for about a year. I considered it sort of a "sport cruiser" for lack of a better word. Plenty quick and handled fairly well for what it was.
Anything off pavement was scary.

urbanXJ · 06-11-2010, 10:45 AM

fuk anger management

give me amnesty and a .45

ctfz1 · 06-11-2010, 04:17 PM

Thanks, it helps. CMT affecting leg nerves, will be going lower and or lighter. By choice, I've ridden Triumph America's and enjoyed it, but they are rare used and prices I see asked are high.
Owned an 1100 ST(5,500 mile), great bike for highway miles/commuting, no joy on the back roads, tall and heavy.
Ditto Concours (86 for 40,000 miles).
The Vulcan's are cheap "test the water ideas", one needs carb help and clean up, one needs a clutch.
OTOH there's a BMW C on Craigslist at $3,000, low miles.
OR a couple GS650's and a Seca 750.

06-10-2010, 07:37 AM	#1
ctfz1 ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2006 Oddometer: 1,132	Anger Management? QUESTION: HOW much of cruiser popularity is based on loud pipes? What % of cruisers are loud? How much popularity is based on shiny bits to play with? Personal note: I WILL ride almost any bike I can, my next bike might be a cruiser (leg trouble), it will not have loud pipes or ape hangers, etc, Do not find rigids anything but perverse. Specialization is fine for people who always know where they are going and how long, my view is I can choose as I go so I like bikes that can do all the rides I do. My favorite cruiser engines were the early 80's Shadows (revy 6 speed 750's) and Magna V45, near as I can tell 90's Magna come closest. Any comments? Title anticipates some respones. Looking at a couple Used Kawa Vulcans, you guessed it, loud pipes and no oems.

06-10-2010, 08:23 AM	#3
haithabu Studly Adventurer Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Canmore Oddometer: 827	Check the Vulcan 750. There's an easy mod which prevents it from popping during deceleration and then it's not too loud. Unlike many cruiser engines, it doesn't flatten out at higher revs. Twist the throttle at over 6000 rpm and it will suddenly turn into a sports bike. The engine will scream and pull away very strong. Pluses: a light cruiser that's good in twisties, good downtown and will beat any cruiser under 1500cc. Shaft drive. Drawback: You'll want an aftermarket seat for long runs. Some of them seem to have persistent carb issues. __________________ I've already won the Darwin award......but Someone else picked it up for me.

06-10-2010, 10:15 AM	#6
Uncle Ernie Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2007 Location: Asheville NC Oddometer: 3,978	Honda ST1100- 1300? Triumph America? BMW 1200C? __________________ LOOK OUT IT'S COMING THIS WAY!

06-10-2010, 12:44 PM	#7
AlanCT The Byronic Man Joined: Apr 2009 Location: Northeastern CT Oddometer: 2,885	[quote=haithabu]Check the Vulcan 750. There's an easy mod which prevents it from popping during deceleration and then it's not too loud. Unlike many cruiser engines, it doesn't flatten out at higher revs. Twist the throttle at over 6000 rpm and it will suddenly turn into a sports bike. The engine will scream and pull away very strong. Pluses: a light cruiser that's good in twisties, good downtown and will beat any cruiser under 1500cc. Shaft drive. Drawback: You'll want an aftermarket seat for long runs. Some of them seem to have persistent carb issues.[/quote I had one of these for awhile. Centerstand, tach, hydraulic valves, shaft drive. Mine also had persistent carb issues. The floats kept getting stuck and flooding it. I thought it looked good, in a sort of '80's techno-Jap kind of way. It had plenty of power and the seating position was fairly neutral for a cruiser. I sold it to get the Concours for LD riding and touring. __________________ "You wouldn't be riding a motorcycle if you weren't an optimist." - Matthew Crawford 2005 Ural Tourist, 2003 Kawasaki Concours IBA #23064

06-10-2010, 04:49 PM	#8
DirtyOldMan Beastly Adventurer Joined: May 2006 Location: 1/2 way between p/hill & hooterville MO Oddometer: 1,718	I had a Magna for about a year. I considered it sort of a "sport cruiser" for lack of a better word. Plenty quick and handled fairly well for what it was. Anything off pavement was scary. __________________ 04 250 RFS 99 640 ADV 13 650 Terra

06-11-2010, 10:45 AM	#9
urbanXJ Beastly Adventurer Joined: Aug 2008 Location: Houston, TX Oddometer: 2,211	fuk anger management give me amnesty and a .45 __________________ ...SPEEDING PAST THE LINE OF GOOD TASTE...

06-11-2010, 04:17 PM	#10
ctfz1 ^OP Beastly Adventurer Joined: Jul 2006 Oddometer: 1,132	OOmmmm Thanks, it helps. CMT affecting leg nerves, will be going lower and or lighter. By choice, I've ridden Triumph America's and enjoyed it, but they are rare used and prices I see asked are high. Owned an 1100 ST(5,500 mile), great bike for highway miles/commuting, no joy on the back roads, tall and heavy. Ditto Concours (86 for 40,000 miles). The Vulcan's are cheap "test the water ideas", one needs carb help and clean up, one needs a clutch. OTOH there's a BMW C on Craigslist at $3,000, low miles. OR a couple GS650's and a Seca 750.

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