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Old 06-12-2010, 02:42 AM   #1
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2up riding?

how it the 800gs for 2up riding? Passenger comfort for longer rides, weekend trips and 2-3 weeks of holiday riding?

I'm 184 cm (6') and weigh 95 kilos (209 pounds)
My passenger, the gf, is 164 cm (5'4) tall and weighs 45 kilos (99 pounds).

2 up riding + luggage ect, is the bike powerfull enough for this?

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Old 06-12-2010, 04:11 AM   #2
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I'm about your height (6'1 & 215) and my wife (5'5 & 140) and we have ridden together on the bike but not for long trips but I was surprised how managable it was. Now add some panniers and gear it might be a different ballpark so that's why I have the 1200. I'm not sure what your comfort range is but you might be fine as your passanger is smaller. The bike as all kinds of power and has no probs with that aspect only the suspension will need to be upgraded in the rear at least. At least a stiffer spring to accomadate passenger + luggage.
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Old 06-12-2010, 04:33 AM   #3
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F800 2up plus luggage... No problem. Great offroad, plenty of highway power, even handles twisties well. We've also rented a 1200GS (3 day trip)and didn't personally feel it had any highway advantages- but was less competent off-road (than the F8).
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Old 06-12-2010, 07:36 AM   #4
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I DO find the R1200GS more comfortable for long road trips.

2up is fine on both bikes including heavy bags.

I barely notice the G/F on the back of my F8GS and she is comfortable for 150 miles between stops but she does find the R12 more comfortable.

With my dad on the back (220lbs, 6'2") the F8 feels a little under powered above 110 mph on gravel, but is still stable as can be, except when my pa starts squirming around.
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Old 06-12-2010, 08:37 AM   #5
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I have been riding my GF on the back of my 07 650GS a lot we are both about 150lbs.

The bike does well, we have been riding in the mountains and it does well up hills and through the twisties. I am impressed by how well it does, I haven't loaded gear on so I don't know about that.
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Old 06-12-2010, 12:49 PM   #6
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With my dad on the back (220lbs, 6'2") the F8 feels a little under powered above 110 mph on gravel, but is still stable as can be, except when my pa starts squirming around.

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Old 06-12-2010, 03:40 PM   #7
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With my dad on the back (220lbs, 6'2") the F8 feels a little under powered above 110 mph on gravel, but is still stable as can be, except when my pa starts squirming around.
If I tried to go 110mph on gravel with my wife on back, I'd be singin' hi notes for the rest of my short life. So please disregard my comparison of the F8 the 12 . Obviously I'm not qualified!
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Old 06-12-2010, 06:07 PM   #8
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What are the guidelines for 2 up riding?

What is the proper way for her to mount? Dismount?

Where is she to hold?

What do I tell her to do in curves & other general guidelines?

Thank you.
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Old 06-12-2010, 09:15 PM   #9
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What is the proper way for her to mount? Dismount?

Where is she to hold?

What do I tell her to do in curves & other general guidelines?
Also good questions for non-biking activities...
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Old 06-13-2010, 03:22 AM   #10
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Thank you guys for your replies. I think, if the weather does get better here, I will go and test ride a F800gs with the gf next week.

Does anyone have any pictures of a 800gs with 2 people on... I havent seen any on here or on google.

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Old 06-13-2010, 07:44 AM   #11
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What are the guidelines for 2 up riding?

What is the proper way for her to mount? Dismount?

Where is she to hold?

What do I tell her to do in curves & other general guidelines?

Thank you.
mount/dismount quick and smooth. She puts her left hand on my shoulder and left foot on the left peg and springs across the bike from her right foot. I didn't realize how good she was at getting on 'till I rode my teenage son and he almost pulled us to the ground just using the left peg as a step.

Son holds on to pannier rack. Wife holds on to my waist/hip bones (bike riding dammit)

On and off road curves, I want her to press slightly into me and lean with me. Any neutral position is okay, though. She just needs to be still/stable in curves.

Rocky terrain/ruts/bumps/hill climbs, she stands up with me. This takes practice, but will be more comfortable and stable in the long run. YOU'VE GOTTA BUY OFFROAD PASSENGER PEGS or it won't work!!! It is a strain for her to stand for long periods, so I try to stay down as much as possible, but we are both ready to raise off the seat when a rough section pops up.

Mud/creeks, we've found its best if she stays neutral on the seat while I stand up alone (she still holds onto my hip bones/waist). If I am gas-on and fishtailing, I have way more control if she stays down. When she was standing in mud, I would sometimes sling her to the side, then over correct to swing her weight back.... then repeat rapidly. This would start a jerky back and forth 'death wobble' and I would have to just chop the gas to keep from crashing. This of course meant we were stuck in the mud.

So bottom line, she rides as 'dead weight' on pavement and mud, but is pretty active on the rest in between.
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Old 06-14-2010, 05:33 PM   #12
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For reference remember the R1150GS made a tad more torque but was on par power wise with the F8 but was quite a bit heavier and just as tall. Nobody ever asks if the R1150 can handle two up but there seems to be much doubt that the 8 is up to the task. I think it (R1150) had a bit more room than the F8. The F8 should do the job well assuming you pack like its a motorcycle. The 1200 has more torque and is great two up. I'm getting ready to take the 8 out two-up next week for 1k+ ride though I ride 95% solo.

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Old 06-15-2010, 05:48 AM   #13
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Me and my Missus are gonna be leaving on a trip around the Great Lakes on the 26th June. We will be doing some 400+ mile days and Im getting the bikes 12k service done before we depart. Will let you know how we get on but current farkels are:

Annakee 2's front n rear, Wuderlich Micro flooters, battery volage meter, Power Bronze screen, Zumo 550, Alaskan Leather Buttpad + large airhawk (for her) = quiet ride, powerlet'ed my dowco tankbag to charge G1 and Zumo, OEM Adv panniers, scala rider teamset, all luggage will go in panniers + canoe bags on top and a waterproof mountaine duffle on the rack secured with rok straps.

We will be camping and hoteling. check the thread in Trip Planning.

We've done lots of weekends together and she loves the bike, I never find it lacking in space or power still nippy around town and plenty of overtaking power on the road!
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Old 06-15-2010, 03:12 PM   #14
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Two up too much

I love riding this bike solo. I do an occasional two up with my son. Now, we are not little people! I am 6'2" 230 and he is 5'10" about 180, and he is 14! As others have mentioned, if I don't keep reminding him to sit up and move his butt back to the top case, I am singing soprano after about 90 minutes! I find that the downward rake of the seat, wich is great for solo off road, is not so great for highway two up. I am looking at different after market seats that have less rake and that nice little step up in the rear that lets the boy know to keep his bumm where it belongs.

As for power and handling, the bike easily takes the two of us and a full camping outfit and personal gear. I dare say that we add another 450 lbs to the 450 the bike is for a total of 900 lbs with no power or handling problems! add gas and go! Just could use about three more inches of seat length!

As for how to ride with a passenger, he is a great pillion. I tell him to just stay still, put his back on the back rest of the top box, and don't move, don't lean, (in other words if you keep your back the same on the back rest you will naturally go with the bike) just keep the same position and everything will be just dandy, he has been riding on the rear of my bikes since he was 9 so he has gotten pretty good at it. Other than the crunch to the tank, i would never know he was there.
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Old 06-17-2010, 10:50 AM   #15
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Thank you guys for your replies. I think, if the weather does get better here, I will go and test ride a F800gs with the gf next week.

Does anyone have any pictures of a 800gs with 2 people on... I havent seen any on here or on google.

Thanks
Check these couple:
From NYC to Brazil, via TDF, two-up on an F800GS:
http://www.gonepenguin.com/
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