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Old 09-06-2014, 10:13 AM   #1
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What the hell is up with kids dirt bike prices in canada?

I've been trying to get a pw50 for my daughter for ages. Been casually looking for a couple years. She's now big enough to ride one so want to get it ASAP now.

However every used one is at an insane price.
Dealers sell them for about $1100-$1200. Sometimes they have them for $999 specials. A local dealer even threw one in for free with every yamaha sold one summer.

I've seen used ones for anywhere up to $1600! It's rare to see one below $1000 unless it's very old and best up. I think the lowest I've seen for a running one was $600 but it was very poor condition.

I just don't get why people think they can ask $1200 for a 10 year old bike when I new one goes for less.

It seems to be a particular trait if the pw50.

Only other bike which is just as crazy used prices is the bmw 1200gs. I bought my 2009 GSA new for $20500. I've seen the exact same bike with anywhere up to 75,000km on it and they are always $19+. Saw one recently for $23k for a 2008 model with 60,000km. Insane.

So what's the deal with the pw50 prices? Are people really so dumb they'll pay more used than a new one?

I'd love a project one that my daughter and I can work on as a project together. Or even a honda qr50. We missed a bargain one for $100 by minutes last week.
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Old 09-06-2014, 10:48 AM   #2
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All used bikes are the same

Same here on the Island. POS 20 yr. old dirt bikes and people want more than they were worth new. Honda XR250-400-500-600-650's especially. Scooter prices are stupid too. 05-06 Zumos for the same price as a new '14. Don't these idiots do a bit of research before they try and sell?

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Old 09-06-2014, 04:56 PM   #3
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Dealer prices...

Don't include PDI, admin and GST.

The dealers around me will have the PW50 out the door at $1600-1700 by the time the fees are added. So it is easy to sell them at $1000-1200 because the things are bullet proof and never change. Seems to me they are $1200 for mint. $1000 for okay. And $600-800 for older ones

I sold the 2 from my kids for $1000 to a relative. I had standing offers from buddies for $1200.

My kids seem to outgrow bikes every year and I like buying the damn things. Pretty much any ttr50, drz70, crf50 or crf70 I see around $1300-1500 I buy for my kids or point my buddies dads to them.

I am set for their next bikes and my kijiji scanning days are being reduced, we met someone whose kids are 2 years older than mine and I agreed to buy his kids bikes when they outgrow them.

Long story short, dealer fees add up to 40% on bike price so don't compare new sticker to an OBO used or you will miss some deals.

Good luck on you hunt!
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Old 09-06-2014, 05:01 PM   #4
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Don't include PDI, admin and GST.

The dealers around me will have the PW50 out the door at $1600-1700 by the time the fees are added. So it is easy to sell them at $1000-1200 because the things are bullet proof and never change. Seems to me they are $1200 for mint. $1000 for okay. And $600-800 for older ones

I sold the 2 from my kids for $1000 to a relative. I had standing offers from buddies for $1200.

My kids seem to outgrow bikes every year and I like buying the damn things. Pretty much any ttr50, drz70, crf50 or crf70 I see around $1300-1500 I buy for my kids or point my buddies dads to them.

I am set for their next bikes and my kijiji scanning days are being reduced, we met someone whose kids are 2 years older than mine and I agreed to buy his kids bikes when they outgrow them.

Long story short, dealer fees add up to 40% on bike price so don't compare new sticker to an OBO used or you will miss some deals.

Good luck on you hunt!
I've seen plenty of friends buy new pw50 for less than $1200 out the door in the last few years. One was $999 plus gst and $50 pdi.

My dealer two blocks from my house who is very expensive will do one today for $1400 all in and I would get $300 of yamaha accessories for free.
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Old 09-06-2014, 05:33 PM   #5
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Buy a new one...

It is very rare that you'll find a "deal" on a used kids bike. Sometimes they happen, but not often.

I just bought a brand new 2013 CRF110 for my 9 year old at the beginning of the summer. I spent 2 years looking for a "deal".
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:10 PM   #6
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Buy it, use it and sell it. You will still be able to get $1200 and have all the accessories and will have it right away.


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I've seen plenty of friends buy new pw50 for less than $1200 out the door in the last few years. One was $999 plus gst and $50 pdi.

My dealer two blocks from my house who is very expensive will do one today for $1400 all in and I would get $300 of yamaha accessories for free.
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:25 PM   #7
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Buy a new one...

It is very rare that you'll find a "deal" on a used kids bike. Sometimes they happen, but not often.

I just bought a brand new 2013 CRF110 for my 9 year old at the beginning of the summer. I spent 2 years looking for a "deal".
Not getting a deal I can accept. Paying the same or in some cases more than new for a used bike is crazy.

I'd say a 2013 lightly used model for $1000 would be ok. But they are going for $1300+.
If I wait until fall properly arrives yamaha will offer the crazy discounts again and I'll get a new one for less than that.
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:33 PM   #8
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Whatever you do, I hope you'll post pics on the Dad's & Daughters picture thread! It's one of my favourites and my daughter enjoys seeing other girls riding...particularly as she is side lined with a broken arm.

Good for you for wanting to get her riding.
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:33 PM   #9
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Supply and demand maybe.

I just looked them up here online and $600+/- seems to be about where the prices are.
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Old 09-06-2014, 06:35 PM   #10
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Yeah, drives me nuts looking at kijiji and going to the Ontario site to see prices and choices.

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Supply and demand maybe.

I just looked them up here online and $600+/- seems to be about where the prices are.
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Not getting a deal I can accept. Paying the same or in some cases more than new for a used bike is crazy.

I'd say a 2013 lightly used model for $1000 would be ok. But they are going for $1300+.
If I wait until fall properly arrives yamaha will offer the crazy discounts again and I'll get a new one for less than that.
I guess it depends on how badly you want one... I got tired of waiting.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:18 PM   #12
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Supply and demand maybe.

I just looked them up here online and $600+/- seems to be about where the prices are.
don't think thats the issue. local dealer has 2. big dealer in the city has at least 8 in stock. they have 4 on the showroom floor.


$600 would be excellent.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:40 PM   #13
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I've been trying to get a pw50 for my daughter for ages. Been casually looking for a couple years. She's now big enough to ride one so want to get it ASAP now.

However every used one is at an insane price.
Dealers sell them for about $1100-$1200. Sometimes they have them for $999 specials. A local dealer even threw one in for free with every yamaha sold one summer.

I've seen used ones for anywhere up to $1600! It's rare to see one below $1000 unless it's very old and best up. I think the lowest I've seen for a running one was $600 but it was very poor condition.

I just don't get why people think they can ask $1200 for a 10 year old bike when I new one goes for less.

It seems to be a particular trait if the pw50.

Only other bike which is just as crazy used prices is the bmw 1200gs. I bought my 2009 GSA new for $20500. I've seen the exact same bike with anywhere up to 75,000km on it and they are always $19+. Saw one recently for $23k for a 2008 model with 60,000km. Insane.

So what's the deal with the pw50 prices? Are people really so dumb they'll pay more used than a new one?

I'd love a project one that my daughter and I can work on as a project together. Or even a honda qr50. We missed a bargain one for $100 by minutes last week.


The Yen is at an all time low, good prices on new Japanese product.
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Old 09-06-2014, 07:44 PM   #14
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unfortunately there seems to be a bottom dollar on motorcycles here in alberta and BC of around $1500-2000 that you're seeing.

Essentially, it doesn't matter what hunk of garbage someone is selling, it can be some non running parts bike from the 70's and they still think they can ask $1500 at least for it.

We just don't get deals like our neighbours to the south. Believe me, I know your fustration and it's ridiculous that a lot of bikes just plain don't depreciate. In 2006 I bought my first bike, a sv650 for $3600. That same year of bike is still selling now in 2014 used for the same price.
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a shining example at it's finest

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-street-cruise...ationFlag=true

most people just pull these prices straight outta their arses

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-sport-bikes/s...ationFlag=true
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