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Old 09-16-2013, 09:33 AM   #1816
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:28 AM   #1817
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Hi guys,
Just flew out to San Francisco to pick up my second LC8. This one is a 2007 SE. I gave it an oil change yesterday. Bike has 10k on it, and I'm curious if the white pictured below is symptomatic of a water pump failure or just normal air bubbles? My 990 doesn't have a sight glass so I have nothing to compare it to. The old oil and filter didn't look more wavy than normal. But not knowing the history of this bike, I thought I'd double check with other SE owners before I ride 2500 miles back home.
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EDIT: I took it for a 30 minute ride today around Sonoma and didn't notice any coolant levels change in the reservoir but that may not have been a long enough ride...
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:44 AM   #1818
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Hi guys,
Just flew out to San Francisco to pick up my second LC8. This one is a 2007 SE. I gave it an oil change yesterday. Bike has 10k on it, and I'm curious if the white pictured below is symptomatic of a water pump failure or just normal air bubbles? My 990 doesn't have a sight glass so I have nothing to compare it to. The old oil and filter didn't look more wavy than normal. But not knowing the history of this bike, I thought I'd double check with other SE owners before I ride 2500 miles back home.
Thanks

EDIT: I took it for a 30 minute ride today around Sonoma and didn't notice any coolant levels change in the reservoir but that may not have been a long enough ride...
looks normal too me
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Old 09-17-2013, 10:54 AM   #1819
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same shti

Same happened to me, ws looking all over checking cables and relays and fuses and and TWO connectors had un-connected themselves!
bastards!!!
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So this is how it went....

- Open up the head light surround
- Unplug connector, remove rubber surround, pull bulb.
- inspect for ages but not able to see anythign wrong.
- refit everything
- still no joy
- take switch apart
- inspects for ages, all OK, puts back together
- still no joy
- start inspecting wiring, inch by inch
- follow wire fronm switch to the connector behind head light.
- plug connector back in as it's hanging loose
- hands in pockets, looks down, whistles, wander around garage thnking "the boys on Advrider are going to rip the piss out of me"

I have no idea how it came out - lighhts haver been fine and it's been ages since I've been behind the dash - oh well lesson learnt.

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Old 09-17-2013, 12:54 PM   #1820
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Do I see a foamy light brown oil below the obvious foam on top? I did on my 2006 SE and the motor was gradualy drinking more oil until it broke down at 75000 kms. My "new" 2009 990-motor now has 50000 kms and the oil has always been dark brown without any foam, and no oil consumption. My ignorant theory was air slippin in through worn viton orings to the suction side of the oil pump??!!
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Old 09-18-2013, 05:22 AM   #1821
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those "bubbles"on the top of oil level....are normal.
Mine does the same
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Old 09-18-2013, 05:50 AM   #1822
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Hi guys,
Just flew out to San Francisco to pick up my second LC8. This one is a 2007 SE. I gave it an oil change yesterday. Bike has 10k on it, and I'm curious if the white pictured below is symptomatic of a water pump failure or just normal air bubbles? My 990 doesn't have a sight glass so I have nothing to compare it to. The old oil and filter didn't look more wavy than normal. But not knowing the history of this bike, I thought I'd double check with other SE owners before I ride 2500 miles back home.
Thanks

EDIT: I took it for a 30 minute ride today around Sonoma and didn't notice any coolant levels change in the reservoir but that may not have been a long enough ride...
Looks normal, check for coolant loss at the radiator cap not expansion bottle.

Keep the oil level just above the minimum mark, to half way.. easy to overfill the SE, if you fill to the oil level max mark and she will blow excess oil into the air box through the breather. Callerbaration of oil level on my SE took some time to observe that it is on the high side.

Always check the oil level on dry sump engines when the engine is fully up to temperature, after say a 30 minute ride.
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Old 09-18-2013, 05:51 AM   #1823
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So this is how it went....

- Open up the head light surround
- Unplug connector, remove rubber surround, pull bulb.
- inspect for ages but not able to see anythign wrong.
- refit everything
- still no joy
- take switch apart
- inspects for ages, all OK, puts back together
- still no joy
- start inspecting wiring, inch by inch
- follow wire fronm switch to the connector behind head light.
- plug connector back in as it's hanging loose
- hands in pockets, looks down, whistles, wander around garage thnking "the boys on Advrider are going to rip the piss out of me"

I have no idea how it came out - lighhts haver been fine and it's been ages since I've been behind the dash - oh well lesson learnt.

cheers

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Same happened to me, ws looking all over checking cables and relays and fuses and and TWO connectors had un-connected themselves!
bastards!!!

If your talking about that white square plug i had mine pull apart about 3 times - leaving me pulling my hair whats left out & happened twice just before going to work which was a night ride.

i wrapped it with electrical tape so they don't pull apart never done it again.


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Old 09-18-2013, 06:37 AM   #1824
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those "bubbles"on the top of oil level....are normal.
Mine does the same

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Looks normal, check for coolant loss at the radiator cap not expansion bottle.
Thanks for these replies. I just wanted to make sure before I head out! Bike's loaded and ready to go!




I spent the afternoon trouble shooting why the radiator fans didn't kick in once the bike hit 5 bars. On my 990, when the bike is running hot at 4 or 5 bars the fans will kick on. So I jumpered the thermostat switch and the fan came on as expected! That lead me to the problem of low coolant. I think the PO didn't burp the system, but I'm going to keep an eye on the coolant level.


We spent some time "tweaking" the Scott triple clamp back into place after the PO bent the handlebar mounts. Notice the official KTM orange tweaking bar.


Well, today I'm off from Sonoma to Portland via the Pacific Coast Highway, and then I'll grab the Washington BDR up to Canada where I"ll head east towards Minnesota! Then I plan a full tear down this winter while checking the valves and replacing the water pump to the late model shaft/impeller.
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Old 09-21-2013, 01:52 AM   #1825
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Bleedin' Brakes

My Se has shti for rear brakes ,bled and bled and...
no bubbles but no brakes either.
It'll work when I spin the wheel by hand, but on the road no way,
I might as well not press the pedal but the Swedish MOT won't let it pass.
Will "back flushing" work?
MOT coming up soon so help'll be appreciated.
New fluid and pads by the way.
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Old 09-21-2013, 03:03 AM   #1826
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If they are that bad it sounds like you have a bigger problem, but you could start by the backflush.

DOT 5.1 and leave a 12mm gap in the Master cyl.

Correct free play at pedal to ensure piston is uncovering port. (you'll know during the back flush).

Still no joy then You'll have to tear into it.

Fit repair kits. Service the mounting pins. Check disc for warp. Check rear wheel spacers.

Have fun.
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Old 09-21-2013, 06:21 AM   #1827
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If they are that bad it sounds like you have a bigger problem, but you could start by the backflush.
DOT 5.1 and leave a 12mm gap in the Master cyl.
Correct free play at pedal to ensure piston is uncovering port. (you'll know during the back flush).
Still no joy then You'll have to tear into it.
Fit repair kits. Service the mounting pins. Check disc for warp. Check rear wheel spacers.
Have fun.
... and condition of pads. They need to bed, as well. As an aside, my rear brake has always been a bit "wooden" in feel. It gets the job done, but nothing spectacular.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:42 AM   #1828
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hi
I read somewhere about a 690 screen fitting a SE or something like that anyway.
I do like a bit of wind protection.
Or anything else that would do the trick.
These will work:

http://www.laminarlip.com/supermoto.php


The tall 950 SM shield installed on my bike:







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Old 09-21-2013, 08:47 AM   #1829
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those "bubbles"on the top of oil level....are normal.
Mine does the same
Mine does it after each oil change. Had a KTM tech look at it and he says it's normal right after an oil change.
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Old 09-21-2013, 09:13 AM   #1830
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Hello from Boise.

I left San Francisco a couple days ago. I road up the PCH to Portland, then over to Boise. I have about 900 miles so far on the trip, but my bike is continuing to use coolant. I'm just hoping it will hold together without any permanent damage until I get home to Minnesota. Long way to go though.

I made it to a buddy's place here in Boise, so I'm going to borrow his garage and pull the clutch cover to see if I can find any tell tale signs of water pump failure.

Here is what I know so far.
A. I've had to had over a quart of coolant in the past 900 miles.
B. Oil appears to be fine. Level hasn't changed at all. Filter is not wavy.
C. Radiator cap seems suspect. The black cap (on the radiator cap) that goes to the coolant reservoir seems suspect. It's a really loose fit, and I can get coolant to ooze out from it by just moving it around. Is this normal?
D. I'm not smelling any coolant leaks and I'm not seeing any wet spots on the motor or around the head gaskets.
E. When I pulled the tank last weekend, I noticed a non-stock hose clamp on the upper left radiator hose, just above the fan/temp switch. That's suspect as well, but I'll have to get the bike up to operating temperature to really identify a slow coolant leak. Tough to do with the tank off.

I'm basically choosing a route home that parallels Amtrak. Worst case, I throw the bike in a Uhaul and take it back to my workshop for a full tear down. Of course, I'd love to figure this out while on the road though!
Thanks for the input.
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