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Old 10-06-2010, 12:58 PM   #196
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Fuel pressure builds up too high on the SE ...
Fuel pressure regulator is the final answer...
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OR, use the #40177 1-2.0 psi / #40252 1-1.5 psi pump

The 40171 is TOO much pressure at 2.0 - 3.5 psi
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Old 10-07-2010, 08:30 AM   #197
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OR, use the #40177 1-2.0 psi / #40252 1-1.5 psi pump

The 40171 is TOO much pressure at 2.0 - 3.5 psi
Interesting.....
So why are most folks running the 40171?

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Old 10-07-2010, 09:30 AM   #198
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I would really appreciate if a knowledgeable gentleman explains how pump pressure affects running!
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Old 10-07-2010, 12:13 PM   #199
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im no moto head, so help me out guys

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I would really appreciate if a knowledgeable gentleman explains how pump pressure affects running!
Too much Fuel Pressure puts TOO MUCH Fuel into the fuel bowls causing the
bike to Flood and / or run rich.

The needle and seats on the bowl floats, will NOT shut the fuel OFF when the pressure is too high.

I think this is right . . . . . Guys chime in.

I dont know who came up with the #40171 for this application

I THINK gravity flow is fine, cause many people have stated 'the bike ran fine with a FULL tank of fuel
when the pump goes out'

I dont mean to sound like a know it all. Im simply expressing my thoughts, which are not always correct.

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Old 10-07-2010, 02:03 PM   #200
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Mine didn't run fine with a full Safari tank.

I haven't checked the others yet but I know the 40171 has a shutoff valve so the bike won't keep letting fuel in and hydro lock when parked overnight DAMHIK
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Old 10-07-2010, 04:12 PM   #201
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Greetings,
It would seem that the #40252, as listed below, would be the perfect pump for our bikes. We must be missing something...

(Another website lists the #40252 as NOT having a Built-in Check Valve, yet still having a Positive Shut-off / Anti-Siphon Valve.)
12 VOLT FACET CUBE FUEL PUMPS
PART #










MAX-MIN










GPH










POSITIVE










NEGATIVE










INLET/OUTLET




















CHECK










POSITIVE










PSI
LEAD CONNECTOR















LEAD CONNECTOR















THREAD SIZE




















VALVE










SHUT-OFF










40104










4. - 1.5










25










N/A










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










12










N










N










40105










4.5 - 3










30










N/A










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










12










N










N










40106










7. - 4










32










N/A










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










12










N










N










40107










10. - 7










38










N/A










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










12










N










N










40108










6 - 4.5










32










.25 BLADE










.25 RING










3/8 FLARE










12










N










N










40109










7 - 4.0










32










N/A










.25 RING










3/8-18 INT










24










Y










N










40135










7 - 4.










32










PACKARD










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










12










N










N










40136










7 - 4.










32










PACKARD










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










12










N










N










40137










7 - 4.










32










PACKARD










.25 RING










3/8-18 INT










24










Y










N










40138










7 - 4.0










32










PACKARD










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










24










Y










N










40147










9 - 4.5










32










.25 BLADE










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










24










Y










N










40148










4.5 - 2










24










.25 BLADE










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










24










Y










N










40163










2.5 - 1.5










17










.25 BLADE










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










24










Y










N










40166










39 -25










9










175 BULLET










..










1/8-27 INT










..










Y










N










40171










3.5 - 2










15










PACKARD










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










12










Y










Y










40176










5 - 3.5










19










N/A










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










36










Y










Y










40177










2. - 1










7










N/A










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










24










Y










Y










40178










3.5 - 2










15










N/A










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










36










Y










Y










40185










11.5 - 9










32










N/A










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










36










Y










N










40189










5 - 3.5










15










AMP










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










36










Y










Y










40217










3.5 - 2










15










.156 BULLET










.25 RING










1/8-27 INT










36










Y










Y










40229










6 - 4.5










32










PACKARD










..










1/8-27 INT










12










N










N










40232










10. - 7










34










PACKARD










..










1/8-27 INT










12










N










N










40241










3.5 - 2










15










.157 BULLET










.25 RING










FEMALE FLARE










36










Y










Y










40252










1.5 - 1










6.5










PACKARD










1/8-27 INT










24










Y










Y












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Old 10-07-2010, 04:17 PM   #202
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I've been saying this for months.
The 40252 would be perfect & also has the check valve
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Old 10-07-2010, 05:08 PM   #203
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And then people recommend a pressure regulator ...duh.

How about just use the one with the proper psi and gph rating in the first place
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Old 10-08-2010, 01:05 AM   #204
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And then people recommend a pressure regulator ...duh.

How about just use the one with the proper psi and gph rating in the first place

Well, that 40252 Facet has been pretty darn hard to find available, for starters, and costs more. 40171 plus regulator has been promoted, readily available and pretty cheap, so people buy them. And if you're not doing a lot of prolonged slow technical & whoops riding, you may never experience the flooding symptoms in the first place. So, yeah, duh.
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:25 AM   #205
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Eh?

I saw a SE last night with a F'n bicycle and rack on the back!
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:42 AM   #206
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Interesting.....
So why are most folks running the 40171?
The Adventure needs extra pressure as the pump is under the motor and has to push the fuel uphill?
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:59 AM   #207
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Maybe not ... from that chart the 40171 has a dry lift of 12" while the 40252 has a lift of 24"

Maybe it's the gph rating ... the 171 is 15 while the 252 is 6.5 but in an hour of riding you wouldn't need even 6.5 ... unless you were really flying.
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:01 AM   #208
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It was just a guess.
I've been running the 171 and have had no issues
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:03 AM   #209
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Never get that slow speed bogging thing?

I know, you never go slow
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:44 AM   #210
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No bogging that I've noticed .

It's silky smooth all through the range (unless I'm over 12,000ft).
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