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Old 05-23-2013, 03:34 PM   #4951
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Thumb FJR's and Super T's...

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test rode a 2013 SuperT. DAMMIT! I'm still in love with it. I thought that my FJR1300 ownership would render the SuperT useless to me. But, I still ride the Super T better in the twisties !!!!!!! Of course my Fjr doesn't have ABS or traction control so I have more confidence on the SuperT...

...dammit, which bike?

As a former FJR owner, and recent FJR shopper, I thought I'd chime in...

I had a truly wonderful 2006 FJR1300, and I loved it. I test rode all the other great sport touring mounts of the time and honestly felt the FJR was by far the cream of the crop of them for me, so I bought one. Turbine smooth. Buckets of torque (especially for an inline four). Seemingly limitless top-end. Confident handling. Great weather protection. Terrific seat. Good ergos other than the pegs being a bit too close to the seat... You name it, it did it well. Didn't care for the bags, and it was heavy, but those were minimal compromises to make for the rest of the package. My only real problem was it's power and smoothness... In that there I'd be cruising along thinking was doing 80 MPH, then I'd look down and the speedo would say 125. I finally decided that one day it was going to land me in jail - big time - so I traded out of it.

Went through a couple of other mounts I thought would be good for long-distance travel... even a big bagger/cruiser... but nothing fit the bill as well as the FJR. I was actually just about to pull the trigger on buying a 2011 FJR (I had a KLR for dual-purpose duty) when I heard they were going to bring the Super Tenere to the USA. When I saw that I decided to take a chance, plop down the PDP money, wait a while, and take a chance. Figured if I got the Super Tenere and didn't like it it would be pretty easy to sell since it was going to be new, different, and in fairly short supply...

But then I got the Super Tenere in my hands everything changed. I started racking miles up on it unlike any bike I had ever owned in 40+years of two-wheeling, and more and more my other bikes stayed parked. My KLR grew cobwebs. My Ducati Hypermotard (which had a CA Cycleworks 6.5-gallon tank for long range) seemed to always have a dead battery for non-use. My XR1200 developed dust-bunnies... And so on.

On paper the Super Tenere shouldn't have been as good as it was, and none of my riding buddies could figure it out. Why would I be riding a big, heavy, reportedly underpowered, dual-purpose "adventure" bike when I had all these other great bikes in the quiver? Then I started selling off many of the other bikes and confused them more...

I often help out the local Yamaha dealer when they have demo ride days and the big Yamaha semi-truck shows up, and this last time, when I heard they were bringing one of the new 2013 FJR's... new fairing, cruise control, other refinements, etc., etc.... I got all excited and thought "Wow, you know with all the bikes I've sold off I've got room for new FJR in the stable," and couldn't wait to ride it. And ride it I did...

Oh, it was a spectacular motorcycle, and I rode numerous times while the Yamaha truck was here. There was that wonderful FJR power in spades. That turbine smoothness, too, though I noticed it made it almost souless, in that I found I missed the more visceral twin-cylinder character that I loved about my Ducati, XR1200, Super Tenere, etc. And sure it was comfortable, with the adjustable windscreen, cruise control, low seat height, etc.... But each evening I would get on my Super Tenere to ride home I'd say "Ahhhhhh, now this is what I really like, and want."

Others have said it, so you're not hearing anything new. I could readily and easily have an FJR right there in the garage next to my Super Tenere, but there's just one problem... I'd never ride it. At least not enough to justify the capital investment, the insurance, and the upkeep. It would jsut sit there.

Why? Well, because for me anyway, the Super Tenere is simply a much better all-around mount. And not just that, but for me it's also a better long-distance mount, solo or two-up. Is it perfect? Hell, no. But it will do more things better, on more rides, than anything else I can currently think of. I can cover more miles a day than I ever could on my FJR, and feel fresher at the end of the day, too. I may not be able to alter time and space with the throttle quite like the FJR can, but honestly I think I can go faster in the twisty bits than on the FJR, too, and carry more stuff in the bargain.

And the Super T will definitely do one thing far better than the FJR can - and that's ride off-road.

For me, it's a no-brainer. Both are incredible machines, but the Super Tenere wins. Hands down. Every time.

Just my two centavos... YMMV, of course.


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Old 05-23-2013, 07:24 PM   #4952
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Ditto on Ed and AF-1 Racing... Best in the business!

BTW, Pluric, while I was out town race chasin' ol' Michael at ECUnleashed replied to my e-mail inquiry about the *free* Gen 2 flash update. So I filled out the online form, pulled the ECU, and then did the Fed-Ex 2-day two-step and shipped it off to ECUnleashed in California.

To tell ya' the truth, if had not been for you finally getting your ECU back, as well as Ed Cook's own reassurance that there wouldn't be any problems doing the California turnaround, I'm not sure I would have risked it. After all, I was plenty happy with my Gen 1 flash.

Can't wait to see what all the excitement has been about with the Gen 2 update! I only hope it doesn't take as long as your's did!

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So far I have not wanted to risk it, but I've been watching and now seeing that the ECU's are trickling in so I'm going to send mine as well. I've been happy with the Gen 1 flash, but will go with the upgrade since it seems there is a big difference. No reply to my emails yet, so time for the nail biter while waiting for the ECU to return home!
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Old 05-23-2013, 07:53 PM   #4953
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Seems to be a great mod with the flash but do not really understand that the communication is that bad, so many people that I read about that send e-mails e.t.c. with no response including myself.
Want to do it one day but would be nice to know how long time I will not be able to ride my bike without the ECU.
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Old 05-23-2013, 08:04 PM   #4954
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Seems to be a great mod with the flash but do not really understand that the communication is that bad, so many people that I read about that send e-mails e.t.c. with no response including myself.
Want to do it one day but would be nice to know how long time I will not be able to ride my bike without the ECU.

If your bike is stock then you don't have to worry a bit. Just find an ECUnleashed dealer and have him do the Gen 2 flash for you. The only folks who have to send their ECU's in to ECUnleashed in California are those people who had a Gen 1 flash done at a dealer, and now want the free upgrade to the Gen 2 flash.

To give you an idea... When I had my ECUnleashed Gen 1 flash done at AF-1 Racing in New Braunfels over a year ago I simply walked in with my ECU in my hand, and Ed Cook did the re-flash at his desk while we sat there talking. The re-flash was done in less than 10 minutes. But since I have a Gen 1 flash I had to send my ECU to ECUnleashed in California for the free upgrade to Gen 2.

Now OTOH, take Snakebitten here... He had never had a re-flash done to his bike, but a couple of weeks ago he rode his into AF-1 Racing, pulled the ECU in the service drive, and Ed did the Gen 2 re-flash while he waited. Since he had never had a re-flash done he could get the newer Gen 2 flash right off the bat.

IIRC there are a few ECUnleashed dealers in Australia (http://ecunleashed.com/dealers/find-...international/)... Have you contacted one of them?

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Old 05-23-2013, 08:40 PM   #4955
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See anything missing in this picture? Empty space, dis-connected battery tender?



Sold the DRZ today and I'm down to one bike for the first time in years. I'm scared, but feel strangely liberated. No more worrying about gummed up carbs and dead batteries, acidic oil or dry-rotting tires. Not that that was a concern with the tenere Poor DRZ, I hope the new owner rides it more than I have the past year.
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Old 05-23-2013, 10:07 PM   #4956
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welcome to the world of one bike.

Your garage floor looks like a real garage floor
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Old 05-24-2013, 04:47 AM   #4957
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Saguaro National Park

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Old 05-24-2013, 06:20 AM   #4958
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See anything missing in this picture? Empty space, dis-connected battery tender?


Sold the DRZ today and I'm down to one bike for the first time in years. I'm scared, but feel strangely liberated. No more worrying about gummed up carbs and dead batteries, acidic oil or dry-rotting tires. Not that that was a concern with the tenere Poor DRZ, I hope the new owner rides it more than I have the past year.
I don't think mine has been off the trailer in over two years. Drained the carb and tender it once in a while.
Since putting a 351 kit on the KLX it has become my trail bike of choice.

Selling the DR doesn't pick up any space so I'll keep it for awhile.

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Old 05-24-2013, 06:34 AM   #4959
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Awesome looking bike GSteve, nice to see it so far from home too!
May I ask what seat you have?

I entered the world of the Super Tenere last weekend and am very excited about it. So far I have only done some commuting on it, and am very impressed with the bike's slow speed maneuverability and stability. The Guzzi Stelvio and Triumph Explorer were in the running as well, but the reliability, low maintenance, excellent dirt manners and looks of the Super Tenere won me over.





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Old 05-24-2013, 10:06 AM   #4960
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I've got a visit

Tim come to visit me!!

We had a good ride.

He's really Tenere sized...















Testing the crash bars... they work!!

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Old 05-24-2013, 10:24 AM   #4961
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Saguaro National Park

Looking at this pic, GSteve, I can see what you mean about the fork travel...

Great pics!!!

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Old 05-24-2013, 10:47 AM   #4962
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Tim come to visit me!!

We had a good ride.

He's really Tenere sized...



Wow, Tim probably wonders why we all want a smaller version.

I assume as soon as the bean stalk grows back he'll go home?
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:08 AM   #4963
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Awesome looking bike GSteve, nice to see it so far from home too!
May I ask what seat you have?

I bought my S10 in July 2012 and it now has 18,250 miles...I like it. I had my seat reworked last Fall by Don Weber of Mr. E'd Moto in Albany, OR when I was in the area on my way home from Vancouver Island, British Columbia. Don got it right the first time.
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Old 05-24-2013, 11:32 AM   #4964
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Tim come to visit me!!

We had a good ride.

He's really Tenere sized...


Gee, for a second I thought Yamaha had come out with a smaller Super Tenere

You should have been in front so you guys would have been more level

and your bike and you are actually higher then his bike since the ground is going up

don't worry, I'm in the same boat as you, us height challenged guys have a problem with this bike plus it doesn't help that we don't weigh over 200lbs
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Old 05-24-2013, 12:17 PM   #4965
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Testing the crash bars... they work!!

Jaumev, you are a bad boy! Taking Tim to that mud with his tires...
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