Help Me Identify CCP in this photo

mdmaroon · 06-24-2010, 11:57 AM

I'm thinking of removing my CCP (Cat Code Plug) to cure a surging issue. I have seen it described as being yellow, and in the center of the fuse box. Well I have a yellow relay (or whatever it is), but not in the center. Do I have a CCP at all? Is it the yellow one off to the side, or is it supposed to be where the empty socket is...

Thanks....

MudSling · 06-24-2010, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mdmaroon

I'm thinking of removing my CCP (Cat Code Plug) to cure a surging issue. I have seen it described as being yellow, and in the center of the fuse box. Well I have a yellow relay (or whatever it is), but not in the center. Do I have a CCP at all? Is it the yellow one off to the side, or is it supposed to be where the empty socket is...

Thanks....

You don't have a CCP on your bike. It would be where the white square socket is... my '01 1150GS didn't have one installed when I bought it either.

You can try the StepToe jumper mod which often helps.

GeorgeinVA · 06-24-2010, 12:42 PM

cgdrake is correct. The cat code plug is a jumper. I is the only "relay" with only two terminals.

bigdave-gs · 06-24-2010, 12:42 PM

what does this jumper change on the bike. Is it for bikes that have removed the stock exhaust? I have thought about changing my exhaust system out for the Wunderlich collector and the Wunderlich tuner so I wouldn't burn my valve from running lean.

mdmaroon · 06-24-2010, 01:06 PM

Hey thanks! I'm going to try that out. Is the jumper position shown in your pic the best or only option?

I have a Y pipe so that is probably why the CCP is gone.

MudSling · 06-24-2010, 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mdmaroon

Hey thanks! I'm going to try that out. Is the jumper position shown in your pic the best or only option?

I have a Y pipe so that is probably why the CCP is gone.

Read this thread: http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=189972

It will answer some of your questions and has a chart with the various jumper settings.

Good luck!

onesaintsfan · 06-24-2010, 04:02 PM

Wonder how much BMW charges for that little Faux Relay? That is crazy

GeorgeinVA · 06-24-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by onesaintsfan

Wonder how much BMW charges for that little Faux Relay? That is crazy

$6.42

Poolside · 06-24-2010, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by GeorgeinVA

$6.42

Really? At least that's halfway reasonable. If I remember, that thing used to be $35.

def · 06-25-2010, 09:20 AM

BMWs for Canadian delivery are not fitted with the CCP. Only US bikes are. The CCP for US bikes is yellow/gold in color. The CCP selects the appropriate map in the ECM based upon emmissions requirements. Instal the US CCP and you'll get better mileage.

mdmaroon · 06-25-2010, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by def

BMWs for Canadian delivery are not fitted with the CCP. Only US bikes are. The CCP for US bikes is yellow/gold in color. The CCP selects the appropriate map in the ECM based upon emmissions requirements. Instal the US CCP and you'll get better mileage.

I did give it a try and it seemed like the slow speed throttle response was better (meaning more progressive and easier to use small amounts of throttle).

After a bit more testing, I found that the mid range power was kind of flat. Like it was getting either too much fuel or not enough (not sure). Kind of like the engine bogged a bit in the mid RPM range.

I removed the jumper as it did nothing for my surging issue which is what I was trying to fix. I think I'll just live with it, because apparently it is normal from what I've been reading.

BluByU · 06-26-2010, 10:57 AM

Surge, surge SURGE what is this you speak of ??
OK, Ya they all do that, and have tried everything to solve it. some what better

best mod was the CCP jumper.
I did the 30 to 87a jumper,
Better low throttle response.
Fuel millage got better

this makes no sense to me, but I am not complaining
Yes a bit flatter in the mid range, barley noticeable
"your results may very"

The 1100GS has a y pipe and low restriction muffler and I ride it like I stole it

GmanVic · 06-30-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by BluByU

Surge, surge SURGE what is this you speak of ??
OK, Ya they all do that, and have tried everything to solve it. some what better

best mod was the CCP jumper.
I did the 30 to 87a jumper,
Better low throttle response.
Fuel millage got better

this makes no sense to me, but I am not complaining
Yes a bit flatter in the mid range, barley noticeable
"your results may very"

The 1100GS has a y pipe and low restriction muffler and I ride it like I stole it

I bought a 1997 R1100GS from Seattle last year (I live in Victoria, BC) and love the bike EXCEPT FOR the surging issue. Been working through all the AWESOME advice on this site, including meticulous Rocker Arm and valve adjustments; new plugs; complete Zero=Zero; bought a TwinMaster and everything (woohoo)! So far, no improvement. I have just changed the throttle cables and aircleaner and now putting 'er back together. Thanks for all the great wisdom, wit, experience, and opinion on this site. I will post (here? someother thread?) with those results.

TUCKERS · 07-03-2012, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by mdmaroon

Hey thanks! I'm going to try that out. Is the jumper position shown in your pic the best or only option?

I have a Y pipe so that is probably why the CCP is gone.

You can connect the bottom jumper to the right for low octane fuel.

roger 04 rt · 07-03-2012, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by GmanVic

I bought a 1997 R1100GS from Seattle last year (I live in Victoria, BC) and love the bike EXCEPT FOR the surging issue. Been working through all the AWESOME advice on this site, including meticulous Rocker Arm and valve adjustments; new plugs; complete Zero=Zero; bought a TwinMaster and everything (woohoo)! So far, no improvement. I have just changed the throttle cables and aircleaner and now putting 'er back together. Thanks for all the great wisdom, wit, experience, and opinion on this site. I will post (here? someother thread?) with those results.

Here is a link to jumper info: Coding Plug Info

On the R1100GS the 30-87a jumper wire disables the O2 sensor and accesses a richer fueling map. It you do that, it's a good idea to add a CO potentiometer and get CO adjutee to 1.5%. Before doing that I'd ask if your bike runs better when the engine is cold.

Looks like you're working your way down the list. It'd probably be a good idea to start a different thread for your questions.

06-24-2010, 11:57 AM	#1
mdmaroon ^OP Mike Joined: Sep 2004 Location: British Columbia Oddometer: 157	Help Me Identify CCP in this photo I'm thinking of removing my CCP (Cat Code Plug) to cure a surging issue. I have seen it described as being yellow, and in the center of the fuse box. Well I have a yellow relay (or whatever it is), but not in the center. Do I have a CCP at all? Is it the yellow one off to the side, or is it supposed to be where the empty socket is... Thanks....

06-24-2010, 12:42 PM	#3
GeorgeinVA Beemers Uber Alles Joined: Nov 2009 Location: Manassas VA Oddometer: 603	cgdrake is correct. The cat code plug is a jumper. I is the only "relay" with only two terminals. __________________ Beemers Uber Alles 9248 Mike Garcia Drive Manassas Va 20109 (571) 318 2472 Indie BMW Maintenance www.beemersuberalles.com

06-24-2010, 12:42 PM	#4
bigdave-gs Explorer Joined: Oct 2009 Location: Central Texas Oddometer: 1,900	what does this jumper change on the bike. Is it for bikes that have removed the stock exhaust? I have thought about changing my exhaust system out for the Wunderlich collector and the Wunderlich tuner so I wouldn't burn my valve from running lean. __________________ It is said, some lives are linked across time, connected by an ancient calling that echoes through the ages. Currently riding a 2004 R1150GS Adv. but a very long list of others over the 30 + + years of riding

06-24-2010, 04:02 PM	#7
onesaintsfan BigJohnHart Joined: Nov 2005 Location: McComb MS, where men are men and sheep are nervous Oddometer: 1,189	How Much $ Wonder how much BMW charges for that little Faux Relay? That is crazy __________________ John Hart McComb MS 2009 Triumph Speed Triple "the mistress" 2008 BMW R1200GSA-" the wife" 2005 Chaparral 210ssi " Native Sun II " " Damn a motorcycle, if somone would buy this thing I would take the bus home "

06-26-2010, 10:57 AM	#12
BluByU Gnarly Adventurer Joined: Feb 2007 Location: Lost in America Oddometer: 388	"they all do that" Surge, surge SURGE what is this you speak of ?? OK, Ya they all do that, and have tried everything to solve it. some what better best mod was the CCP jumper. I did the 30 to 87a jumper, Better low throttle response. Fuel millage got better this makes no sense to me, but I am not complaining Yes a bit flatter in the mid range, barley noticeable "your results may very" The 1100GS has a y pipe and low restriction muffler and I ride it like I stole it

06-24-2010, 01:06 PM	#5
mdmaroon ^OP Mike Joined: Sep 2004 Location: British Columbia Oddometer: 157	Hey thanks! I'm going to try that out. Is the jumper position shown in your pic the best or only option? I have a Y pipe so that is probably why the CCP is gone.

06-25-2010, 09:20 AM	#10
def I have little to say Joined: Feb 2004 Location: The woods and mountains of Alabama Oddometer: 6,305	BMWs for Canadian delivery are not fitted with the CCP. Only US bikes are. The CCP for US bikes is yellow/gold in color. The CCP selects the appropriate map in the ECM based upon emmissions requirements. Instal the US CCP and you'll get better mileage.

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