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Old 11-22-2011, 01:32 PM   #2176
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Relais Gabriel to Port Cartier - 260 kms dirt

Nice job Ted , great website !

I was planning to follow Skibum on this new section but I ended up doing it alone since he ran out of time getting to Labrador.
The TLH loop I took from Hfx - St John's - Goose Bay - Lab City - Hfx in mid Sept was 4500 kms.
This was my favourite section . . . no mud, rain or 18 wheelers trying to take all the road.
It had great scenery and lots of elevation changes, some sand and corrugations but perfect for a dualsport.

3 kms south of Relais Gabriel you turn left 90 degs on a small logging road that becomes a lot bigger.



Even without a gps track you would not get lost for 80 kms all the way to the railway.
Just stay on the main road, there are no big forks to confuse you.





It's not as isolated as it looks, I met 2 bikes coming north from Sept Isles, a KLR and a GS650.



Lots of cabins, hunters and crew cabs near the railway.
The skidoos are all thru here from Sept Isles and Port Cartier, lots of route signs posted.


Here is a link to the gps track: http://tinyurl.com/d2sb4gm

and more of the photos: http://tinyurl.com/c7bge22

Relais G. to P Cartier = 260 dirt then 170 paved to Baie Comeau

Relais G. to Manic 5 = 100 dirt, then 220 paved to B Comeau.

Only about 110 kms longer but 160 kms more dirt . . . and nicer.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:46 PM   #2177
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Great pics in the album ... especially like tattoo's

I love the remoteness up there and that looks like a nice side trip but you will miss some excellent twisty pavement north of Baie Comeau
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Old 11-22-2011, 04:30 PM   #2178
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Hi Dan. Yes that's true but Deadly was looking to maximize the dirt on this route.
Manic 5 is definitely worth seeing, and the twisties are too but I did it in ' 99 on the beemer and hate to run the same route twice if I can see new roads.
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Old 11-22-2011, 08:07 PM   #2179
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True enough, Deadly is a little more dirt focused than I am, I appreciate a good road whatever the surface covering may be.
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Old 11-23-2011, 04:49 AM   #2180
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Like this idea.

Just caught up here and guess I am too lazy to read the 146 pages. So where are you on the trail. I am recently retired and there are a few of us in North west part of Ontario that could be a resource to the completion/documentation of the trail between Thunder Bay and the Manitoba border. We have ridden a good deal of the old logging roads rehabbed rail lines tote roads and other trails that connect this part of the country.

There are so many options for trail crossing the area. Also there are plenty of areas where logging/mining activity can cause a road to become unusable or dangerous and of course the ever present activity of the national rodent which can flood out a road in a weekend. If you need any part confirmed or are in need of alternatives etc do not hesitate to use us as a resource.
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Nice job Ted , great website !

I was planning to follow Skibum on this new section but I ended up doing it alone since he ran out of time getting to Labrador.

Relais G. to P Cartier = 260 dirt then 170 paved to Baie Comeau

Relais G. to Manic 5 = 100 dirt, then 220 paved to B Comeau.

Only about 110 kms longer but 160 kms more dirt . . . and nicer.



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True enough, Deadly is a little more dirt focused than I am, I appreciate a good road whatever the surface covering may be.
Its not that I am more dirt focused, well I suppose I am, but there are several places along the route where pavement is unavoidable. The TCAT is all about getting to see places "off the beaten trail" that you wouldnt otherwise get to see, looks like this diversion fits that description well
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Old 11-23-2011, 06:58 AM   #2181
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True dat .... I'm looking forward to trying the other route too
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Old 11-23-2011, 07:27 AM   #2182
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True dat .... I'm looking forward to trying the other route too
The paved section on Tree's route is a nice scenic coastal road
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Old 11-23-2011, 08:42 AM   #2183
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Yeah, it is!

I've seen that one too .. rode it to the end once about 20 years ago.

Nice costal views.
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Old 11-23-2011, 11:50 AM   #2184
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I've been putting in the hours on the GPS files. The eastern half of the TCAT is almost complete, Juames and I are just putting some finishing touches to them. No more missing gaps

Eastern tip of Newfoundland to the Manitoba border

Below picture shows NFLD and Labrador (known as the Taiga Chapter in the guidebook).

It utilizes an old rail line across Newfoundland, some slab along the Viking Highway through Gros Morne park and along the coast. A ferry brings you to the Trans Labrador Highway. A mix of pavement and gravel until you get into Quebec. Gravel roads to the St Lawrence river (THANKS TREE ), slab along the St Lawrence to a town called Baie Comeau.

This "chapter" of the TCAT is estimated to take folks approximately 6-10 days and is approximately 3000 km's in length. 1/5 of the route


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Old 11-23-2011, 12:00 PM   #2185
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The next section of the TCAT crosses the province of Quebec. Approximately 1600 km's in length, this section is comprised of 90% gravel roads. Three tech sections for those who want a bit more of a challenge are included

Very remote would best sum up this section of the route

This section was a collaboration between Juames, Fab, Rob and myself. From what I have seen this section will be a highlight for many folks. After completeing the Trans Lab you'll think you have seen some remote places......

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Old 11-23-2011, 12:30 PM   #2186
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Very cool. Up until I read this thread, I hadn't given riding Canada much thought. There is a lot of time and effort into what your doing. Thank you for sharing.
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Old 11-23-2011, 12:36 PM   #2187
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Port Cartier west to Godbout ( more dirt )

Ted I found this on the very good Quebec dualsport website Ridaventure:
http://www.ridaventure.ca
If you register first then go to this thread the gps file (.gdb) for download is in the first post:

http://www.ridaventure.ca/viewtopic....relais+gabriel

The file contains Relais Gabriel - Port Cartier - Godbout ( all gravel ).
There should be more gravel to Baie Comeau from Godbout, maybe the Quebec guys here can fill that in.

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Old 11-23-2011, 05:27 PM   #2188
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Very cool. Up until I read this thread, I hadn't given riding Canada much thought. There is a lot of time and effort into what your doing. Thank you for sharing.





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Ted I found this on the very good Quebec dualsport website Ridaventure:
http://www.ridaventure.ca
If you register first then go to this thread the gps file (.gdb) for download is in the

The file contains Relais Gabriel - Port Cartier - Godbout ( all gravel ).
There should be more gravel to Baie Comeau from Godbout, maybe the Quebec guys here can fill that in.


Tough call, given it's someone else's route they probably spent a bunch of time putting together it wouldn't seem right.....

Also the section after Baie Comeau is a pretty remote and demanding one. That day right after Baie Comeau is almost 600 km's unless you want to camp in the wilds, all gravel and VERY remote. 380 km's of it must be done between fuel stops. My initial thought is that folks might enjoy an hour or two on slab along the coast prior to heading into the forest for a few thousand km's. It's predictable most folks would have also spent the night in Labrador City so I can imagine after getting to Port Cartier some coastal scenery and smooth sailing would not be a disappointment.


There are places that make logical stops along the route. Gas, lodging, mechanics, Internet, etc. Whenever possible I have tried to make it doable for folks to get to them in a day. About 600 km's of gravel kind of a day. Of course many folks will use their own schedule and agenda and for most parts of the route this ain't an issue.
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Old 11-24-2011, 05:06 AM   #2189
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The next section of the TCAT crosses the province of Quebec. Approximately 1600 km's in length, this section is comprised of 90% gravel roads. Three tech sections for those who want a bit more of a challenge are included
how many days do you think this section takes?
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how many days do you think this section takes?
5-8 days would be my guess. Really depends on speed and how long you travel each day, of course weather is a big factor but I think 5-8 days seems fairly accurate.
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