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Old 05-06-2011, 08:01 AM   #1606
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Holy Shit you guys were having fun eh? Well up to a point...

I think Barge should retain he name - he didn't crash into the tree so much as barged THROUGH it...

Would it be correct to assume that a lot of the $6k worth of damage is due to the cracks in the engine casing and such? And that they were caused by the Yam crashbars being pushed into the engine? A different crashbar design might have produced a different result i.e. plastics would be more protected (but he hit hard enough that there would have been some damage regardless) and engine might have escaped damage.

I guess it all depends on what type of crash you have, there's no crash protection in existence that will work for every situation.

Good luck getting back on the road Barge.

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Nah, I beg to differ Trev.
I think its probably lucky that he did have Yamaha bars on as they certainly offer the best protection in this incidence.
They are actually very solid bars and have moved like plastic.
It could be argued that the bars being pushed back is what did all the damage, but its hard to say what it would have looked like with higher/no bars.

I think a substantial cost of the repairs would be:
1/ the required replacement of the fuel tank.
2/ pretty sure its only a cracked R/H eng cover?
3/ new headers - You can see they are crushed at the cross bar.
4/ new crash bars.
5/ headlight/dash support - the bars pulled all that across.

Who know what other damage they found under the side faring?

He still enjoyed the day..

Just glad my mates ok and we managed to get him home with no personal damage.

Greg.
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Old 05-06-2011, 08:21 AM   #1607
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Just glad my mates ok and we managed to get him home with no personal damage.

Greg.
Yes that could have turned out a whole lot worse than it did. Bike can be fixed or replaced, people are a little harder....
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Old 05-06-2011, 03:37 PM   #1608
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What's round and full of wood, Barge's helmet, you know if I was doing something stupid Greg would own up for me, that's what mates are all about, and since deciding against a new career in a mobile tree felling venture I have spent a fair amount of time trying to analyse what went wrong(the big bit), and what went right(the little bit).

What went wrong:

1. Never hit a tree when your riding with Wasp, so far there's been Crashenator, Terminator and a lot of very colourful stuff which will probably extend into the next mellinium.

What went right:

I was not travelling fast, the bike ended up approximately 8 metres from the tree(25ft), I reckon I was doing 40kph cresting the rise, traction control blipping and the bike veered to the right putting me on a collision course with the tree, and I mean straight at it, all I remember from that point was trying to avoid what was coming, I really thought that this was going to hurt big time.

The tracks showed that I did manage to alter course but the one thing that saved me from certain serious leg injury was the Yamaha crash bars, I believe they helped launch the bike away from the tree, so much so that I ended up landing to the right of the bike, face first in the gravel, but without a scratch. Without the bars my right leg would have been doing all the deflecting, no doubt. The handle bars did not impact the tree either.

Parts wise is going to be minimal, I know the header system is $1700 and I am assuming the fuel tank will be $2500, crash bars $450, then take out labour there's really not going to be much left.

I would like to thank Greg and Mick for there 0.0001 second of genuine concern, without that I would be a shattered brick shithouse.

Seriously though, I would like to thank them for there help, without it I would be dingo tucker, and Greg, remember that I still have your ute

To wrap up it was an awesome day on the bike, apart from the obvious I learnt alot about myself and the extraordinary S10, I would not own any other adventure bike.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:11 PM   #1609
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And there's proof of life..

See, we didn't just roll his cold limp body into the bush and drag his bike home as spare parts for the WASPmobile.

You obviously fell for my sympathy and concern () thinking I was checking out the damage on your bike... I was scoping what good bits were left!!!

Greg.
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:20 PM   #1610
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Oow Oow, I got another one...: Bargenator, Crashenator, Terminator,,,,
Now:

Treeintimator or even Treeinseminator.


What about Treecopulator

Greg.
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:55 PM   #1611
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Oow Oow, I got another one...: Bargenator, Crashenator, Terminator,,,,
Now:

Treeintimator or even Treeinseminator.


What about Treecopulator

Greg.
How about "TREETRUNKINATOR"

Glad you came out OK Bargenator and that you guys can make fun of it.

That’s what my buds and I do, but after no matter the years when we bench race it always comes back to light. They and you never forget.

Men only remember stuff like that but wife’s remember everything.
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Old 05-08-2011, 06:33 PM   #1612
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Working on fairing

Here is my Super10 stripped of almost all the fairings and plastic parts which are being duplicated in fiberglass to assist Bargenator in recovering some of his damaged parts ... unfortunately no metal parts ... lol ... what I need to know and possibly many other inmates, is which engine guard will give me the best protection in a crash as this one.
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Oow Oow, I got another one...: Bargenator, Crashenator, Terminator,,,,
Now:

Treeintimator or even Treeinseminator.


What about Treecopulator

Greg.
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Old 05-09-2011, 12:00 AM   #1613
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If it wasn't for the Yam bars there wood be a tree in our state forest with a trunk and one leg. Really, for the force of the impact there is very little damage, ie, the number of parts destined for the scrap heap, if I had a water pump cover and liquid metal and a litre of oil I could have ridden it back home.

If it was SW-Motech or similar design I'd be in a lot of trouble now. Whilst the Yam bars bent back into the engine and broke the water pump housing and clutch cover and bent the lugs the bars bolt onto, if they were any stiffer it would have ended up bending the frame.

The trouble is with any designed crash bar, you don't really know what protection you have until you crash, engineers and there programs can reproduce only so much of the real world, like the Alt-Rider bars, they were going on my bike next, but now maybe not,what would have been the damage caused by the impact of the magnitude that I experienced, what would have been the end result, front of the engine ripped off, or a written off frame, or would I have ridden away.

I personally would not recommend any crash bars to anyone, it's a evaluation done at the time to meet your requirements, personal protection, radiator protection or whatever, in my case the Yam bars are looking ............
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Old 05-09-2011, 07:17 AM   #1614
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Crash bars

Thanks Bargenator ... next purchase will be the Yamaha crash bars modified as shown by a South African mate ... also modified the seat with a leather cover instead of the original which damaged my butt ... too coarse ... good for motocross guys but not for trail riding ... what I would recommend in your case and mine for off road is a steering dampener ... mailed Daniel at Rocstompa but he hasn't developed any one for our bikes ... maybe some other brand will have one.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:37 AM   #1615
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Here is my Super10 stripped of almost all the fairings and plastic parts which are being duplicated in fiberglass to assist Bargenator in recovering some of his damaged parts ... unfortunately no metal parts ... lol ... what I need to know and possibly many other inmates, is which engine guard will give me the best protection in a crash as this one.
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I think Barge is right with this one Roberto..
All falls are different but I think the Yamaha bars offered the most protection for the rider as well as the bike IN THIS CASE.

P.S - I REALLY look forward to seeing what you do with the plastic.. Im hoping carbon comes into the equation somewhere.. Hint!!

Greg.
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:42 AM   #1616
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As a diversion from normal viewing..

My younger brother (bald guy) bought the property across the road from me, and we both live with millions of acres of State forest at our door steps.
We get out quite often when the weather is not too hot (coming into the cooler wet months now ) and I think the older brother (sunglasses guy) realized he was missing out on something.
He recently sold his 08 BMW K1200S to join us on the bush rides, so I went down to the big smoke with him on Monday to pick up his new BMW F800GS.

These are a fabulous bike and a perfect fit and ergo's for him (being a smaller guy) and perfectly suited for where and how we ride...

Anyway, I thought I would share these pics as having the three brothers (and good mates) out riding together again is really special to me = One of those priceless moments.
We all really enjoyed ourselves and were out for about three hours which included a lunch stop at a bush pub, and it is now something that we will make a regular (maybe fortnighly) gig out off.
We are all competent riders and enjoy a similar brisk pace, and each others company, so there should be a lot of good times ahead.

Greg.

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You can just about hear the trash talk - KTM vs BMW bla bla bla...
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Old 05-11-2011, 08:54 AM   #1617
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Wasp, you forgot something, where's the pictures of the bikes side by side

We need to see them from the front, side and rear side by side

That should be an easy job for you
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Old 05-11-2011, 09:04 AM   #1618
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Wasp, you forgot something, where's the pictures of the bikes side by side

We need to see them from the front, side and rear side by side

That should be an easy job for you
Yeh They both make the S10 look a little bit on the porkie side

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Old 05-11-2011, 12:21 PM   #1619
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Old 05-11-2011, 12:35 PM   #1620
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Man, you guys are making me envious and mad at the same time

Yamaha, put the damn parts in a box and ship it FedEx to my house, I will put it together but you guys can charge me the same
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