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Old 12-12-2010, 09:45 AM   #1006
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Not only that but caught twice going over 10kmh and your banned or a good behaviour bond! I know this cos it's happened to me.

I got done doing 15kmh and under on a double demerits day in 2005, and then again in 2007 on some country road from a hidden camera... 12 points gone.
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Old 12-12-2010, 10:39 AM   #1007
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I'm already thinking I'm going to get Wasp's new pipe to make sure the bike keeps pulling in the higher RPMs.
Why?

It pulls so much harder in the low, why would you like it screameing like a pig?

Just try it 1-2-4-6 or 1-3-5-6 You will be amazed, and its so Massive Attack hearing an ENgine climb through from 2500 onward :-)
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:45 AM   #1008
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It pulls so much harder in the low, why would you like it screameing like a pig?
My Vee doesn't even begin to come to life until you are over 4,500. The sweet spot of the power band is between 5500 and 8500. Just been riding like that for many years. It's hard to imagine getting satisfaction at lower RPMs. I remember Greg said it felt like it was just blowing hot air at 6,500. That would be a big disappointment on my current bike.

I know several have said the sweet spot is much lower RPMs on the S10. I just need to get a chance to experience the bike and realize I'm not going to be giving up any torque. If it takes a full exhaust and PCIII from Greg then I'm not opposed to doing that. I'm just a torque junkie.
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:49 AM   #1009
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The sweet spot of the power band is between 5500 and 8500.
I'm just a torque junkie.
Does not compute !
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Old 12-12-2010, 11:56 AM   #1010
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Does not compute !

agreed... Dirt Dad appears to be confusing torque with horsepower
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:01 PM   #1011
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Does not compute !
I may be saying it wrong. My Vee is super responsive with massive acceleration between 5500 and 8500. I can get it to wheelie in 3rd gear at 6500 RPM with the slightest hump in the road. That's what I'm calling torque, but I'm not above mixing my terms and saying the wrong thing. Whatever I'm describing is what I don't want to lose with the S10.
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:21 PM   #1012
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Does not compute !
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agreed... Dirt Dad appears to be confusing torque with horsepower
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I may be saying it wrong. My Vee is super responsive with massive acceleration between 5500 and 8500. I can get it to wheelie in 3rd gear at 6500 RPM with the slightest hump in the road. That's what I'm calling torque, but I'm not above mixing my terms and saying the wrong thing. Whatever I'm describing is what I don't want to lose with the S10.

Vee dyno graph so you all can see what D_Dad's talkn' 'bout



Still looking for a Super-ten chart.
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:38 PM   #1013
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nothing at all surprising to me in the DL1000 chart.

Point being The Super 10 has quite a bit more torque than the DL 1000 which will be felt from very low revs almost immediately. As far as this "surge" from 5000 to 8000 that he feels, it is more a result of horses and I cannot comment on how the horses in the super 10 respond at that rev range compared to the DL1000. Maybe someone who has ridden both extensively can. But even on paper the stock Tenere has more max horsepower (though not by much).
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:47 PM   #1014
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Still looking for a Super-ten chart.

yeah I cannot find one either.


I guess that is another "to do" for you, Greg
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Old 12-12-2010, 12:52 PM   #1015
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There is one in the link thread

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showp...postcount=3101

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Old 12-12-2010, 12:55 PM   #1016
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Vee dyno graph so you all can see what D_Dad's talkn' 'bout
Someday I really want to understand how to read one of these things. I don't want to get that far off topic on Greg's thread, but it's clearly something that mystifies me.
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Old 12-12-2010, 01:05 PM   #1017
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Someday I really want to understand how to read one of these things. I don't want to get that far off topic on Greg's thread, but it's clearly something that mystifies me.
didn't he Dyno his somewhere in this thread?? maybe he can post up the chart?
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I would hate to read into dyno charts too much and it would also be better if we were able to test both bikes on the same dyno on the same day, but having said that there are some interesting differences: The Super Tenere hits peak horsepower earlier, just after 7000 rpm and then begins to drop off(The DL1000 seems to hit the max around 8000). But keep in mind the max horses for the Super 10 are higher. It also loses it's torque numbers somewhat quicker than the DL1000 which stays more steady but even at 8000 rpm the super 10 has about 66 ft. lbs which is near the max number for the DL1000. At 6000 rpm you realize the max torque for the Super Tenere which is over 81 ft. lbs at the rear wheel.

Conclusion: Dirt Dad needs to ride the Super Tenere to see if he will like it as much as his DL1000
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Old 12-12-2010, 01:14 PM   #1019
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Conclusion: Dirt Dad needs to ride the Super Tenere to see if he will like it as much as his DL1000
Agreed. But even if it initially falls short I will hold out hope that a yet to be released PCIII will remedy any issues.
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Old 12-12-2010, 01:35 PM   #1020
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I can get it to wheelie in 3rd gear at 6500 RPM with the slightest hump in the road. That's what I'm calling torque, but I'm not above mixing my terms and saying the wrong thing. Whatever I'm describing is what I don't want to lose with the S10.
Well then you must stay on your V-Strom, because the 60cm long swing arm prevents wheelies, but wait till you feel what real usable torque feels like.

Just throw open the slueses at 2500 rpm (from about 2000 rpm it does what you want) and feel the Power, its like a aeroplane taking off, you dont feel a kick in the back, but just ACCELERATE, its not quite astorqui as the MT-01, but boy does it rip your arms off if you first dial in S/Off

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Agreed. But even if it initially falls short I will hold out hope that a yet to be released PCIII will remedy any issues.
There aren't *any* its so beautifull metered lots of testers call it *dull* so linear it is...
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