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Old 07-09-2010, 12:55 PM   #1
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Tiger (Girlie) and a Velorex 562?

Hey folks,

I have a 2006 Tiger, and have no sidecar experience or knowledge, and was thinking of hanging a sidecar on it sometime soon. Any thoughts on pairing a used Velorex 562 with the Tiger? Has anyone done this already? Would I need a subframe for this?

I have read somewhere that the weights of the bike and the sidecar make a difference, and should be properly matched to make a well handling rig. What is that formula?

My other (more expensive) option, is to have a sidecar built for me, probably by Claude. This would most likely be the best way to get a sidecar, as Claude would make sure that things are matched and mounted properly.

Opinions, thoughts?

Thanks for any replies!

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Old 07-09-2010, 01:08 PM   #2
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Forget the Velorex. Go for any other option for your "Tiger".

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Old 07-09-2010, 01:09 PM   #3
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Tiger Velorex

A 562 would be a good match to your bike. Yes you will need a subframe designed specific to your bike. Claude's Freedom tubs would be a great match and give it the look of a trans-continental traveller.
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Old 07-09-2010, 03:14 PM   #4
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forget the Velorex. It is far to light for a bike like the tiger. The 562 is intended for a 18hp 350cc Jawa.
Go for an Ural/Dnepr tub or someting modern.
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Old 07-09-2010, 04:27 PM   #5
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Well, I just found out that the Velorex I was considering has been sold, so there goes that option.

Does anyone have a plan or jig for building a subframe for the Tiger? I am most likely going to be working with Claude on a sidecar, so I'm sure he will help with this as well.

Thanks for the replies! Keep 'em coming!

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Old 07-09-2010, 05:28 PM   #6
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tiggers definitely need a subframe for any chair you attach to it ...........



and be prepared for your gas mileage to take a dive ................mine went from 42 mpg average to 24 mpg
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Old 07-09-2010, 05:33 PM   #7
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Nice wood you're sportin there...

So where did you get your subframe?
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Old 07-09-2010, 05:37 PM   #8
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I made it with a mig welder and a pile of steel
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Old 07-13-2010, 05:20 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by wesseld
Hey folks,

I have a 2006 Tiger, and have no sidecar experience or knowledge, and was thinking of hanging a sidecar on it sometime soon. Any thoughts on pairing a used Velorex 562 with the Tiger? Has anyone done this already? Would I need a subframe for this?

I have read somewhere that the weights of the bike and the sidecar make a difference, and should be properly matched to make a well handling rig. What is that formula?

My other (more expensive) option, is to have a sidecar built for me, probably by Claude. This would most likely be the best way to get a sidecar, as Claude would make sure that things are matched and mounted properly.

Opinions, thoughts?

Thanks for any replies!

Don
Don,
speak to Claude he will have the answers you seek and most likley will build you something to your spec and that suits the Tiger,sub frames are easy if you have the right equipment,i could have made mine myself but that would envolve buying a load of gear that i dont have room for,this for me is very frustrating as i love to fabricate,i have a Hedingham ETH on my Tiger its a "duel" purpose chair, very light,the sub frame is basic but it does the job,
one thing i would have liked to incorperate into the chair would have been an anti roll bar or sway bar,Claude can do this for you,hope you like the pics.






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Old 07-14-2010, 09:39 AM   #10
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Chairhead,

I love the pics. Those are the best photos I've seen so far that show the subframe and connecting arms. Thank you very much for showing them.

Can I ask you what other modifications you had to make for adding the sidecar? Did you have to change the sprockets for better gearing ratio? Did you have to change the clutch to compensate for the added weight? Did you change the rear suspension at all? Where did you get your front end from (and how much did it cost)?

Thanks for your help!

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Old 07-14-2010, 10:48 AM   #11
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Hi Don,
always a pleasure to help a fellow Tiger and Outfit rider ,in answer to your
questions,the gearing is standard,i have never thought to change it as i dont feel it needs it,your's however might depending on the chair of course,go with standard at first and see how you get on,then change if you feel it needs it,one area you will need to look at is the suspension,i have bought a Wilbers from Germany,they custom built it for me,i went with this company as the shock i really wanted wasnt available for the "Girlie" Tiger, that would have been a Fournales,i do belive there is a guy your side of the pond that reworks Tiger shocks and for a good price

look here http://www.sasquatchrider.com/

The leading link are Wasp items and to me look the Bollocks,they run to around the £1400 mark,i want to raise the front mudguard to give it a more enduro type look
you can of course get Unit forks over there......i think ,maybe Duantless do them??,but they are Butt ugly to me and have the calipers underslung looks like they forgot about them and decided at the last moment to fit them under the front swingarm(shudder)
The clutch is also standard,no need to change that at all,i have a bigger chair on my Suzuki Bandit 1200 and also run a standard clutch,as im sure do most guys on this forum.
I hope ive answered you questions and if you have more then fire away
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Old 07-15-2010, 12:13 AM   #12
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there are some subframe pics in here too, dig through the pics. enjoy.
http://photobucket.com/brockoli
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Old 07-15-2010, 12:46 AM   #13
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there are some subframe pics in here too, dig through the pics. enjoy.
OK brockoli, what´s the story on this? It’s quite different from the former Tiger outfit you built.



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Old 07-15-2010, 12:54 AM   #14
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Wow Brock!,
some good stuff in there,cant wait for the end result,should have started a new thread mate.
@ Richard,
you beat me to it,i was looking through the pics,saw that one and thought Ohh someone will have some questions
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Old 07-15-2010, 01:06 AM   #15
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Brock,
would i be right in saying this will be a two wheel drive outfit?,the rear sprocket will run to something like a Quaife reverse box with an output shaft for the sidecar wheel to be driven,very similar to a GSX1400 ive seen?,or im i way off the mark
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