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Old 09-24-2013, 08:58 PM   #856
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AZ, NM and southern Appalachia maps are 3 months out.
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Old 09-25-2013, 08:51 AM   #857
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Old 10-18-2013, 09:17 PM   #858
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Old 10-26-2013, 08:16 PM   #859
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Off road?

Do you regular maps (not BDRs) show any off road routes, or is it purely pavement based?
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Old 10-27-2013, 12:03 AM   #860
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Old 10-27-2013, 08:37 PM   #861
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Do you regular maps (not BDRs) show any off road routes, or is it purely pavement based?
The maps that I have (SoCal, Idaho, Utah) have a "Looking to Get Dirty" section, which list cool dirt roads on the map. I don't believe they are "highlighted" on the maps themselves though.

They also have paved mountain trails and lost highways, which, in my experience, are paved, but sometimes not very well.

Generally speaking, though, these are fantastic for on-road use, excluding the BDR maps, obviously.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:21 AM   #862
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ROLL THE BONES RALLY Laguna Park TX Oct 25th - 27th

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Roll The Bones was a big time this last weekend with 120 sumthin riders signed in. I put about 725 miles on the bike Fri-Sun & got back home around 5pm yesterday. Lots of dual sport riding with minimal mishaps. KTM was well represented by a bunch of 950/990 Adventures along with other models (even a 640 Rallye) At least 4 TransAlps...2 with Africa Twin headlight conversions. 2 BMW HP2s a couple of Ural hacks.. an 1150GS hack & Cleatus' Guzzi home biult hack.

+ all the usual Sup Tens...Tigers ..KLRs...Versys.. Stroms. Also a smatterin of street bikes like Wings...a 1600GT & some sport bikes which obviously did the strictly paved routes. ...Of which I was a part of...kinda. (I had my own route which traversed to the east for TWT PIE @ Fairfield & Freestone County fun.)

We're lucky ta have such a wide variety of riding right in our back yards. Maybe not the topography of ..say Colorado.... but L O T S more widely varying road conditions & types to chooze from.
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:29 AM   #863
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BUTLER MAPS Paved & Highlighted..VS Unpaved Dotted Lines

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The maps that I have (SoCal, Idaho, Utah) have a "Looking to Get Dirty" section, which list cool dirt roads on the map. I don't believe they are "highlighted" on the maps themselves though.

They also have paved mountain trails and lost highways, which, in my experience, are paved, but sometimes not very well.

Generally speaking, though, these are fantastic for on-road use, excluding the BDR maps, obviously.
I believe that most of the Butler Maps now have some unpaved roads shown with dotted lines (either red or black) Not sure what the red/black indicates but it may be RED = roads ridden & verified... BLACK = roads suggested by other folks but not ridden yet. Is this right Bill???
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Old 10-28-2013, 07:59 AM   #864
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I believe that most of the Butler Maps now have some unpaved roads shown with dotted lines (either red or black) Not sure what the red/black indicates but it may be RED = roads ridden & verified... BLACK = roads suggested by other folks but not ridden yet. Is this right Bill???


Never noticed before, but you're right. The legend says red dash=recommended dirt road black dash=other dirt road. They also have Thin Red = unpaved /4wd road.

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Old 10-29-2013, 10:31 AM   #865
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:32 AM   #866
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Any discounts on California maps?
i'll check and see if there are any plans for that next?
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:52 AM   #867
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Do you regular maps (not BDRs) show any off road routes, or is it purely pavement based?
there are big bike friendly easier dirt roads on the maps.
we will only feature these types of roads, so all ADV and DS bikes can experience.
our maps are NOT dirtbike maps.
i know because i do all that work on that layer of the map.

all of our state maps have (except for the Ozarks) have red dash dirts roads (approx 40 per map, except for THC). these are are our recommended dirt routes. they are awesome dirt roads to search out and explore. we also have gray dashed dirt roads that are also sweet (often more than 40) that i put on after i hit my quota of 40 reco roads.

background: we had originally planed to create seperate dual-sport maps of each state but budget constraints showed this was not possible. when we 1st created the THC map we added some key dirt roads. when i got to look at that 1st revision edit of THC i said i'll work on adding more dirt roads and thus i got the job of doing that work.

then when our other state maps sold out and when needed to reprint we decided to added 40 recommended dirt routes (red dash) and 40 other dirt routes (grey dash) plus add travel guides and other POI such as hot springs (my initiation and work too). we then created a version 2 of our maps (utah was at v3).

the later completed V2s of maps had more than 40 grey dash roads as budgets allowed more to be added, but we stuck with approx 40 reco red-dash roads. over time, as reprints happen, i have been given a budget to add even more grey dash roads to further complete that vision of offering a dual-sport map for each state. at the same time we also plan on redoing the backside of each state map and thus you'll see a V3 of each state map. map making is never a finished product, but a constant refinement.

now back to the Ozarks and no dirt roads. because the map scale of the Ozarks was such a large area this created very little space between the rated paved roads to add dirt road labeling on the map. also the names changed alot in a short distance. i tried to label dirt roads but it become such a tight mess of wording it was obvious early on that this did not look good on paper. we thus decided to scrap dirt for the Ozarks. we wanted it, but it would have made for a really cluttered and ugly map...it is a digital art piece after all.


hope that helps, Bill
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Never noticed before, but you're right. The legend says red dash=recommended dirt road black dash=other dirt road. They also have Thin Red = unpaved /4wd road.

those thin solid red roads (that are unlabeled) are on the map because at the zoom level (map scale level) the Benchmark base maps we use show those. they could be paved and they could be dirt, but we choose not to feature or label them (at this time). it's all about size constraints of our map area vrs amount of room on paper we can print on. when we zoom in, more roads are shown. when we zoom out less are shown. if you compare our different state maps, you'll see map scale differences between states.

if you buy a Benchmark state atlas http://www.benchmarkmaps.com/ you'll see those are our basemaps we use to create Butler Maps and will have all the details you could ever need. Our cartographer works at Benchmark and thus we have full access (after licensing $ has been paid of course) to their maps. In a sense we are also pushing Benchmark further as we've created maps (Ozarks & THC) that Benchmark does not have in their inventory yet so they are created. Our east coast basemaps maps will all need to created as Benchmark is a western company.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:04 PM   #869
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Bill, thanks a lot for the info. This is exactly what I have been looking for and will be picking up a Texas Hill Country map.
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