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Old 10-29-2013, 11:02 AM   #871
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Never noticed before, but you're right. The legend says red dash=recommended dirt road black dash=other dirt road. They also have Thin Red = unpaved /4wd road.

those thin solid red roads (that are unlabeled) are on the map because at the zoom level (map scale level) the Benchmark base maps we use show those. they could be paved and they could be dirt, but we choose not to feature or label them (at this time). it's all about size constraints of our map area vrs amount of room on paper we can print on. when we zoom in, more roads are shown. when we zoom out less are shown. if you compare our different state maps, you'll see map scale differences between states.

if you buy a Benchmark state atlas http://www.benchmarkmaps.com/ you'll see those are our basemaps we use to create Butler Maps and will have all the details you could ever need. Our cartographer works at Benchmark and thus we have full access (after licensing $ has been paid of course) to their maps. In a sense we are also pushing Benchmark further as we've created maps (Ozarks & THC) that Benchmark does not have in their inventory yet so they are created. Our east coast basemaps maps will all need to created as Benchmark is a western company.
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Old 10-29-2013, 03:04 PM   #872
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Fantastic info!
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Old 10-30-2013, 11:39 AM   #873
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Bill, thanks a lot for the info. This is exactly what I have been looking for and will be picking up a Texas Hill Country map.
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:00 AM   #874
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Next 3 people to CALL in and order a Master Collection Collection http://www.butlermaps.com/Motorcycle...ter-Collection and say it's for the Klim fundraiser http://www.advrider.com/forums/showthread.php?t=929467 will get free shipping.
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Old 10-31-2013, 12:03 AM   #875
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Bill, thanks a lot for the info. This is exactly what I have been looking for and will be picking up a Texas Hill Country map.
You're welcome guys. glad to help.
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Old 10-31-2013, 10:55 AM   #876
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I was asked about mapping Bend Bend on TWT and here was my response:

We love the Big Bend area, but it has too few paved roads to make a map for us. There are others out there that work. Our company focus is mapping & rating areas with a high number of great twisty paved roads. Secondary is to highlight some of the great dirt roads in that area. The Texas Hill Country will be the only area we map in Texas.

We have finished riding AZ and NM and will release state maps when the budget allows it. The cartography mapping portion of our biz is the most expensive part of what we do so we release when we can. We have also divided the east coast into 4 regional maps and have ridden the southern most one (southern north carolina) and will release that one soon enough.

After we are able to release AZ, NM and southern East Coast we might move north and work on the next 3 sections, but we will still need to ride OR and WA state and pay for those. We also need to map a BDR state each year & i'm thinking ID is next so we have a Mexico to Canada route (AZBDR > UTBDR > IDBDR) So as you can see we have 5 solid mapping areas to complete & pay for as well as annual BDRs. This alone is going to keep us busy for the next 3-5 years.

100% we have an annual winter release of the AZBDR - http://www.backcountrydiscoveryroutes.com/AZBDR
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Old 10-31-2013, 11:10 AM   #877
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Time for a fall ride!
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Old 11-05-2013, 04:42 PM   #878
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Old 11-05-2013, 07:17 PM   #879
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I was asked about mapping Bend Bend on TWT and here was my response:

We love the Big Bend area, but it has too few paved roads to make a map for us. There are others out there that work. Our company focus is mapping & rating areas with a high number of great twisty paved roads. Secondary is to highlight some of the great dirt roads in that area. The Texas Hill Country will be the only area we map in Texas.

We have finished riding AZ and NM and will release state maps when the budget allows it. The cartography mapping portion of our biz is the most expensive part of what we do so we release when we can. We have also divided the east coast into 4 regional maps and have ridden the southern most one (southern north carolina) and will release that one soon enough.

After we are able to release AZ, NM and southern East Coast we might move north and work on the next 3 sections, but we will still need to ride OR and WA state and pay for those. We also need to map a BDR state each year & i'm thinking ID is next so we have a Mexico to Canada route (AZBDR > UTBDR > IDBDR) So as you can see we have 5 solid mapping areas to complete & pay for as well as annual BDRs. This alone is going to keep us busy for the next 3-5 years.

100% we have an annual winter release of the AZBDR - http://www.backcountrydiscoveryroutes.com/AZBDR
Nevada. With Nevada being touted by many as the new Baja and the ever increasing number of people planning their spring and fall trips here, creating a BDR definitely couldn't hurt.

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Old 11-06-2013, 07:04 AM   #880
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Old 11-08-2013, 11:00 PM   #881
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Nevada. With Nevada being touted by many as the new Baja and the ever increasing number of people planning their spring and fall trips here, creating a BDR definitely couldn't hurt.

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yes i have asked and have gotten confirmation there will be a NVBDR at some point.

http://whois.domaintools.com/nvbdr.com
the name is owned by Cycoactive (Touratech) & they are our partners in this whole project.
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Old 11-15-2013, 11:57 AM   #882
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Hi!

Just received my Northern and South Cali maps. While it is a great idea to make motorcycle specific maps, I couldn't overlook how cumbersome and inconvenient use of the paper map seems these days.
First thing missing - ZOOM!!!
I was trying to take a look at San Francisco/South Bay and I have a very hard time reading any details there. Just too cramped. Ride descriptions are also seems to be very generic - Something like - "HWY 1 - great ride", yes I know. I would really like to see some sort of integration into digital age.
If you buy a map - you should get access to the digital version, be able to zoom in and out and ideally create a navigation list to export to GPS/Cell Phone?

Any plans for that?
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Old 11-16-2013, 06:39 PM   #883
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Hi!

Just received my Northern and South Cali maps. While it is a great idea to make motorcycle specific maps, I couldn't overlook how cumbersome and inconvenient use of the paper map seems these days.
First thing missing - ZOOM!!!
I was trying to take a look at San Francisco/South Bay and I have a very hard time reading any details there. Just too cramped. Ride descriptions are also seems to be very generic - Something like - "HWY 1 - great ride", yes I know. I would really like to see some sort of integration into digital age.
If you buy a map - you should get access to the digital version, be able to zoom in and out and ideally create a navigation list to export to GPS/Cell Phone?

Any plans for that?
thanks for the feedback!

we are working on Iphone apps (Android to follow) for each of our state maps. it will be a separate purchase item from our paper maps. we've run into many problems integrating our rating system into digital form and thus this project has taken much longer than we hoped.

as for digital map included...for $30 you just received a map of ALL the great roads in California. this takes ALOT of time and $ as will our digital maps. we must charge for that time or we cease to exist.

yes i hear you on that area being cramped. it is. it's the nature of the beast with a paper map and we have only so much room to work with detail boxes. we had to divide the state into 2 maps because there are so many great roads. we have packed alot of info into each map for the $15 a piece you paid.

sorry you don't like the ride descriptions. that's your issue to deal with. we try our best to use accurate and simple descriptions.

what you will NEVER get from a digital map on your phone is the big picture and this is the focus of our company. only printed maps can give you the big picture. we make maps for people who ride all over the state and want to plan their 3-30 day trip. many use our maps to design routes and then load those into their GPS to follow. you have a smartphone. our map gives the names of the must find roads. every rated road is named so use your phone to find them.
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Thanks for the info. I understand additional challenges with integrating your maps for iPhone.
I also happen to work for Apple and know some people in maps group. If you guys have particular issues and need some help - I may be able to help.

I would love to go to 3-30 day trip, but can't at the moment, so for me as day trip rider these maps have a very limited use. I would actually prefer to pay same 15$ or so for the large scale map of SF Bay Area for instance and have it a lot more detailed and easy to read...

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thanks for the feedback!

we are working on Iphone apps (Android to follow) for each of our state maps. it will be a separate purchase item from our paper maps. we've run into many problems integrating our rating system into digital form and thus this project has taken much longer than we hoped.

as for digital map included...for $30 you just received a map of ALL the great roads in California. this takes ALOT of time and $ as will our digital maps. we must charge for that time or we cease to exist.

yes i hear you on that area being cramped. it is. it's the nature of the beast with a paper map and we have only so much room to work with detail boxes. we had to divide the state into 2 maps because there are so many great roads. we have packed alot of info into each map for the $15 a piece you paid.

sorry you don't like the ride descriptions. that's your issue to deal with. we try our best to use accurate and simple descriptions.

what you will NEVER get from a digital map on your phone is the big picture and this is the focus of our company. only printed maps can give you the big picture. we make maps for people who ride all over the state and want to plan their 3-30 day trip. many use our maps to design routes and then load those into their GPS to follow. you have a smartphone. our map gives the names of the must find roads. every rated road is named so use your phone to find them.
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Old 11-18-2013, 06:32 PM   #885
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Thanks for the info. I understand additional challenges with integrating your maps for iPhone.
I also happen to work for Apple and know some people in maps group. If you guys have particular issues and need some help - I may be able to help.

I would love to go to 3-30 day trip, but can't at the moment, so for me as day trip rider these maps have a very limited use. I would actually prefer to pay same 15$ or so for the large scale map of SF Bay Area for instance and have it a lot more detailed and easy to read...

Thanks.
i'll bring that concept up. we have a few areas in california that are packed like that and could all be found on a separate cali detail map.
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