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Old 03-27-2013, 10:17 AM   #16486
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I wouldn't use a 140, that's a 650 bike size.
The K60 is a very good 50/50 tire. And although the center strip is solid and some don't like it for off pavement, it does provide for much better wear on road.

I've got about 3500 miles on the Fullbore USA tires and they are excellent, although I doubt they'll go past 5K miles. Cheap at $150 for a set though. The 150 rear is a V-rated radial. Very good on and off pavement.

Rear traction is rarely much of an issue as long as there is some kind of traction blocks. The front on the other hand benefits greatly from something more knobby-like to prevent washouts in corners. The Mefo/Heidie front is a good compromise, or you could spoon on a TKC for those times where you'll see mostly dirt. For that matter, a Pirelli Scorpion Rally front makes for a very aggressive front knobby. I just wouldn't run it past 75 for any length of time, it's not a speed rated tire.

Think seriously about a set of K60's. I'm guessing you would be happy with them for a 50/50 tire. Solomotoparts.com sells them cheap and ships free. Tell Aram that 'browneye' sent you.
The center strip is a pain in the ass. It doesn't stop worth a shit off road. Getting going is one thing, stoping is, well, way more important!
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Old 03-27-2013, 10:46 AM   #16487
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The center strip is a pain in the ass. It doesn't stop worth a shit off road. Getting going is one thing, stoping is, well, way more important!

Well yep. Everyone wants a tire that sticks like glue on pavement, wet or dry, flies through sand, traction like a knobby, with a 15K mile treadlife.

I'll probly get another set of the Fullbores when these are gone. Nothing like new tires even if they only last 5K miles. For $150 a set it's hard to beat.

BTW, last time I was out to the big tire store out here I had the opportunity to compare an M40 side by side with a 705 and there are slight differences. The M40 does have slightly wider block spacing, and it's a V-rated vs H-rated radial on the Shinko. My take is that it's a slightly better tire at a similar price point.

I've run these things HARD on the road, up to 90mph, through mud, ice, snow, dirt, you name it. They just flat work.





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Old 03-27-2013, 11:14 AM   #16488
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+1 on the Full Bore tires.
I ordered them from Chaparral's website last Sept and they were $152.32 otd shipped to my door.
They really do perform well in all conditions just like Browneye said.
I highly recommend them - especially considering the cost vs. performance factor!
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Old 03-27-2013, 11:15 AM   #16489
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The 140 size k60 only has half-lugs in the back. It may start out better than the 150 off road, but after 2000 miles, you've got a solid center strip anyway, and a squared-off profile on the tire.
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:15 PM   #16490
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The 140 size k60 only has half-lugs in the back. It may start out better than the 150 off road, but after 2000 miles, you've got a solid center strip anyway, and a squared-off profile on the tire.
true dat, i think they changed it to this style. dumb!
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Old 03-27-2013, 12:18 PM   #16491
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Well yep. Everyone wants a tire that sticks like glue on pavement, wet or dry, flies through sand, traction like a knobby, with a 15K mile treadlife.

I'll probly get another set of the Fullbores when these are gone. Nothing like new tires even if they only last 5K miles. For $150 a set it's hard to beat.

BTW, last time I was out to the big tire store out here I had the opportunity to compare an M40 side by side with a 705 and there are slight differences. The M40 does have slightly wider block spacing, and it's a V-rated vs H-rated radial on the Shinko. My take is that it's a slightly better tire at a similar price point.

I've run these things HARD on the road, up to 90mph, through mud, ice, snow, dirt, you name it. They just flat work.





Excellent write-up Chris! I also bought these for my XC. So far so good!
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Old 03-27-2013, 01:40 PM   #16492
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Where can I find these tires and do they have 19" M40's for the roadie?
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Old 03-27-2013, 03:17 PM   #16493
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Where can I find these tires and do they have 19" M40's for the roadie?
Chaparral Racing, and yes.
http://www.chaparral-racing.com/Prod...083-AS401.aspx

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Old 03-27-2013, 03:45 PM   #16494
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Where can I find these tires and do they have 19" M40's for the roadie?

They do.
Chapparals in CA
American Mototire in AZ
KGM Motorcycle tires in Utah
found these guys on a google search: http://www.motorcyclemaniacstore.com free ship and will send to Canad too.

All have them online. I think American motortire had the best prices though: http://www.americanmototire.com
And the 19 is even a radial. Super duper special. Us with the 21's have to get by with a tubed bias tire. I have no chicken strips on mine, but they never feel like they're gonna let go. Fantastic tire. Now that I'm used them I ride the shit out of them. I feel a little vib right at about 18mph coming to a stop, and that's it.

EDIT: I just looked at prices and it appears Chapparal's has the lowest price. And I think they ship free too. In state pays tax though, so AZ is better for us here in Cali.

And yes, they are a great tire for the roadie if you're gonna do some gravel running. They'll do quite nicely on road too. Certainly not like the Pirellis that came on it, but they work well for a dualsport type tire.


EDIT II: BTW, American Moto Tire has the 150 size michelin innertubes that are so hard to find as well. I now carry a spare in my pannier on longer trips. Always have a front under the seat, with irons, a patch kit, and a 12v pump.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:41 PM   #16495
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140 would be fine. The BMW 800 guys run them. I almost put a 140 K60 on mine but I could get the 150 right then so I did...

I am on my third 140 section rear with no issues. Works great.
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Old 03-27-2013, 04:44 PM   #16496
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I'm picking up my new 800XC on Friday and have to replace the tires with something a little better suited to the gravel road I live on.

About the Full Bore tires, it says that the front tire (M41) is Bias ply and the rear (M40) is Radial.

Is that going to be an issue?
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Old 03-27-2013, 06:57 PM   #16497
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About the Full Bore tires, it says that the front tire (M41) is Bias ply and the rear (M40) is Radial.

Is that going to be an issue?
Should not be a problem at all.
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Old 03-27-2013, 08:01 PM   #16498
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About the Full Bore tires, it says that the front tire (M41) is Bias ply and the rear (M40) is Radial.

Is that going to be an issue?
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Should not be a problem at all.
I've never had any problems with this setup but I believe tire manufacturers are required (by their lawyers) to deny that combinations other than two perfectly matched tires, of the same make/model, with equal amounts of tread, and mounted by a factory certified installer will be anything but safe.....
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Old 03-28-2013, 07:05 AM   #16499
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I've never had any problems with this setup but I believe tire manufacturers are required (by their lawyers) to deny that combinations other than two perfectly matched tires, of the same make/model, with equal amounts of tread, and mounted by a factory certified installer will be anything but safe.....
Of course! Not to mention that such a policy helps to sell more tires.
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Old 03-28-2013, 08:27 AM   #16500
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Unless your racing on a track & can ride like a pro, you'll never notice the bias front is paired with a radial.
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