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Old 04-17-2013, 08:43 AM   #16681
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Going to try the Full Bore tires from American Moto Tires, but their tube selection is limited. And considering it's been a few years since I've done my own tire changes, I want tubes on hand. I used to do pretty quick changes on my YZF426, but again, that was a few years ago.

Wasn't sure if I needed the exact size or a range, thanks for the answer

They have the Michelin ones for radial tires - that's the one you want. They're about $30. I carry a spare.
Here's the product link at americanmototire: http://www.americanmototire.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=610_618_619&products_id=3925


EDIT: BTW, tubes are not easy to find because this is a rare configuration indeed, a 150 size tire with a tube. About the only other bike that has this is the F800GS. The 1200's are tubless, as is just about everything else out there that runs a 150/160 size tire. You also want a 'radial' rated tube, they apparently are configured for more internal slip due to the nature of the radial belts of the tire. The big KTM's are tubed, but they're also an 18" rim.

The tires are easy to change, just get some rim protectors or cut tabs out of a plastic container lid or similar - has worked for me. The hardest part is breaking the bead on the rear - the side stand trick while the bike is on the center does work fairly well.

Also, I think you'll like the Fullbore's. I've put 3K miles on mine and they are the last thing I think of out on the bike. They just flat work, on and off pavement.
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Old 04-17-2013, 10:40 AM   #16682
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Hi guys! I'm coming due for my 2-year service items, brake fluid replacement and coolant replacement. Looked at the service manual and it seems pretty straightforward all around.

My bike has ABS so I'm going to also attempt to replace the brake fluid in the ABS modulator using DealerTool. If anybody has done that and has any gotcha items or pointers for either job that aren't covered in the service manual, that would be appreciated.
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Old 04-17-2013, 01:09 PM   #16683
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Hey don't keep it secret. We like solutions.
Im trying to not solicit business in this thread ... so I can steer anyone interested in the LED lights and Tiger specific mounting hardware to our vendor thread

This post shows some pics of the lights up close and the hardware kit we put together for the Tiger

The full thread can be found in my signature line.

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Old 04-17-2013, 01:51 PM   #16684
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I've been searching for 30 minutes and haven't been able to find the answer to where to buy tubes for the 800XC, HD or regular. It could be the lack of coffee, but I'm usually pretty good at ferreting out the info I need.

Feels like another Monday coming on
I had a similar problem here in Oz and ended up getting a Harley Davidson tube in the correct size.
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Old 04-17-2013, 02:19 PM   #16685
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I had a similar problem here in Oz and ended up getting a Harley Davidson tube in the correct size.
30 seconds, and found them here

http://www.mx1australia.com.au/index...ls/product/827
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Old 04-17-2013, 07:06 PM   #16686
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:16 AM   #16687
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Old 04-18-2013, 03:56 AM   #16688
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I see a fun weekend coming ...

Cug- I'm curious on what prompted this? Are you looking for more smoothness or more bottoming control off road? As a former Ducati 996 owner with Ohlins I know ride quality is dramatically improved. On my crap EX500 race bike I put a FOX on it and you would have thought I swapped the frame out at the same time. A quality suspension upgrade can be dramatic in ride feel. I'll be interested in your review.
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Old 04-18-2013, 04:20 AM   #16689
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Cug- I'm curious on what prompted this? Are you looking for more smoothness or more bottoming control off road? As a former Ducati 996 owner with Ohlins I know ride quality is dramatically improved. On my crap EX500 race bike I put a FOX on it and you would have thought I swapped the frame out at the same time. A quality suspension upgrade can be dramatic in ride feel. I'll be interested in your review.
I'm also eagerly awaiting your review. How much was it? Have you done anything to the front forks?
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Old 04-18-2013, 05:01 AM   #16690
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I see a fun weekend coming ...

So far I LOVE mine. It improves everything. I've only got about 100 miles on it but you can immediately tell the difference. Have fun with the instillation. I didn't have to install mine . The remote reservoir locate is a little odd. I'll post a pic of what we came up with on mine. We basically just flipped it around...
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:17 AM   #16691
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I've been searching for 30 minutes and haven't been able to find the answer to where to buy tubes for the 800XC, HD or regular. It could be the lack of coffee, but I'm usually pretty good at ferreting out the info I need.
The most obvious answer is at a Triumph dealer as both the Tiger955i and the 800XC has the same size rear. I've found they're not too expensive.
Also, for HD tubes, look up "Mefo" and/or "Barum" and see if they're imported to the USA. Good quality made in the old eastern Europe. Cheaper than Michelin.

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You also want a 'radial' rated tube, they apparently are configured for more internal slip due to the nature of the radial belts of the tire.
I don't know where you get that idea from. I've never heard of it and have run my Tiger955i for 10 years and just used any old tube off the shelf. The OE tubes were just bog standard Metzeller. Same as the OE tubes in my XC were bog standard Bridgestone.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:43 AM   #16692
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Fork oil change.

The results are in.

Tuesday I changed my fork oil to straight 5W. I drained out what was in there into a measuring jug as I didn't want to strip the forks down completely. I got 460ml out of each leg. I replaced it with 400ml of 5W and put it all back together.
Last night I went for a 120 mile ride to my RAT club night and back. On the way there I took all the bumpiest roads I knew and the results were very favorable. Instead of "crashing into the bumps" it rode over them like a Rolls Royce. Well almost!
There didn't seem to be any lack of control in the damping department. The bike steered & stopped just the same. It was just so much more comfortable over the bumps and potholes. Front and rear seemed very well matched.

So my advice to those of you thinking of spending a fortune on cartridges and re-valving etc. is to try this first. Cost??? £10 for a litre of oil and 1 hour of time.
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Old 04-18-2013, 07:59 AM   #16693
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Cug- I'm curious on what prompted this?
Note that I have a Roadie, therefore no adjustment other than preload at the rear. The spring rate wasn't right for me weight, although with standard pre-load adjustment kind of okay, the sag was halfway correct, the damping okay but harsh and I think it does contribute to the slightly bouncy ride on uneven ground (same as the front but that is sorted already).

Also interesting is that it seems that there were several adjustments made to the Roadie suspension over the lifetime (or the production tolerances are outrageous - a thought I wouldn't discount on that cheap suspension setup the Roadie has). I've ridden a stock Roadie that was much more compliant and much less bouncy than mine.

The XC is completely different in that regard*(front and rear). After riding the Roadie, I didn't want the XC at all, way too soft for my riding, wobbly and bouncy. A total rocking horse ... But I have to admit, a very comfortable one.

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I'm also eagerly awaiting your review. How much was it? Have you done anything to the front forks?
Front has Traxxion AK-20 fully adjustable cartridges. I got these last summer and I'm very happy with them. The ride feels slightly tighter but still much more compliant. Spring rate for my weight, damping is pretty much perfect.

I had issues with the bike being bouncy which I attributed to the forks having a bad spring rate, too compression, and not enough rebound damping. Even for my light weight (70kg/155lbs before gear), I got a much stiffer spring, but also much more compliant and better set up damping.

This solved:

- brake dive, there is enough left to do typical corner entrance compression for sharper handling, but not more

- bottoming out, I didn hit the limit in the front a few times with my normal riding, but there wasn't much left even just going on a day trip on mountain roads here, I used probably 85 to 90% of the travel with normal, non-aggressive riding, now I'm using about 70% with the same style riding and have never pushed it all the way day down

- lean angle limits, due to the too soft springs I was compressing them too much in fast, high lean angle corners, which made me touch down foot pegs and other parts quite easily, together with a 15mm raise in the rear and the correct spring rate, that is much better now

- comfort issues, the ride is much more compliant now, compression is less harsh, rebound is a bit stronger, meaning that the bike doesn't bounce itself up

- bouncing, see comfort

What it did on the other hand was making the shortcomings of the rear suspension bloody obvious. Same issue there: spring rate off, too much compression, not enough rebound. On the XC this can be at least halfway corrected by adjusting the rebound properly, on the Roadie that isn't an option.

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So far I LOVE mine. It improves everything.
I know, I have ridden a Roadie with exactly the setup I have now (AK-20 front, Öhlins rear) from a rider with exactly my weight. It was a pretty much perfect ride for my taste: tight, sporty, compliant, comfortable, you plain never ever thought about the suspension, it just works.

That's why I ordered mine this way. I'll install the shock this weekend and will likely go for a day ride in the mountains. I'll report back ...

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Have fun with the instillation. I didn't have to install mine . The remote reservoir locate is a little odd. I'll post a pic of what we came up with on mine. We basically just flipped it around...
It doesn't look too hard. What do you mean by "just flipped it around"?
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It doesn't look too hard. What do you mean by "just flipped it around"?
the adjuster sticks out and i didnt like it sticking out because of it catching on my boots. we spun/ flipped it so the adjuster is towards the bottom. i can take some more pics later.

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see how it sticks out...? Well, I didn't like that.
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