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Old 11-13-2010, 10:38 AM   #2071
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Official US pricing from Triumph Detroit...

MSRP OTD
Tiger 800 $9,999.00 $11,260.00
Tiger 800 ABS $10,799.00 $12,100.00
Tiger 800 XC $10,999.00 $12,300.00
Tiger 800 XC ABS $11,799.00 $13,170.00

What comes standard on the Tiger? Are heated grips or any type of trip computer included? I think the Beemer has a few standard items that are optional on the Triumph.
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:17 AM   #2072
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AFAIC, the BMW 800GS is almost certainly a better dual sport, but probably not as good as an Adventure Tourer (XC will have better engine/seat for long distances). And that's just fine, because it gives the XC a different niche. Of course, the reality is that both of these bikes are too heavy to be true dual sports, so Triumph probably has made the better, or at least, more sellable compromise.
I think you have nailed it. For all the chatter about off road worthiness, the reality is, the vast majority of riders see little of it and what they do see can be ridden on most standard bikes. You really need look no further than questions about the right accessories for these types of bikes. Many more about luggage, lights, seats and windscreens, then what to do about crappy suspension. I still think that a heavy flywheel on a triple has a hidden purpose. Gyroscope maybe
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:21 AM   #2073
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Man I was just thinking about what the prices were like back when I bought my '07 Tiger new. So I looked it up:

2007 Tiger 1050
MSRP (US): $10,699, $11,499 ABS.

Man prices have gone up in the last couple years.
2010 Tiger 1050
MSRP (US): $11,999, $12,799 ABS.

It struck me as the Tiger 800 US pricing was announced that the MSRP wasn't too far off what the 1050 was selling for a couple years ago. Such is life I guess.

Re the Tiger 800, I'm sure all the extra goodies will be dealer accessories as they are on the 1050 (heated grips, center stand, etc.). For price guess-timate purposes, the Triumph center stand kit on the 1050 currently retails for $220 while the hand guard kit is $100 and the heated grip kit is $220.
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Old 11-13-2010, 11:27 AM   #2074
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The reason for the sharp rake angle could be to overcome the gyroscopic affect of the supposedly heavy wheels (not sure what makes them heavier than others) and, who knows how much gyroscopic action a heavier fly wheel adds. I'm assuming it's pretty small, but maybe it actually makes a notable difference. So you joke, but maybe it's actually a part of the whole equation?
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Old 11-13-2010, 12:20 PM   #2075
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Well it was kind of tongue in cheek. Depending how heavy the flywheel is, spinning at the RPM levels required to max HP or torque it could have an affect on stability. I would really like a off road report that includes a lot of sharp turns. That could be telling.
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Old 11-13-2010, 01:28 PM   #2076
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Heavier flywheels or flywheel weights are usually used to smooth out abrupt or peaky power deliveries. They can also be used for more lugging abilities, less stalling at lower engine speeds.
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Old 11-13-2010, 02:08 PM   #2077
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tubeless tires?

Does anyone know if these bikes have tubeless tires?
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Old 11-13-2010, 02:32 PM   #2078
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Does anyone know if these bikes have tubeless tires?

The cast rims should have them, not so the spoked rims based on what the eye can see.
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Old 11-13-2010, 05:12 PM   #2079
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UK price for an XC £7,749 otr (ABS + £600) Just noticed it on the Triumph site......Spec sheet still makes no mention of front suspension being adjustable(features page still makes mention of adjustable upside down blah blah Showa blah) ....... I'd have thought they'd have the spec page finished....soon after the bike.
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Old 11-13-2010, 06:06 PM   #2080
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ummmm isnt the 800 like a hundred pounds lighter than the 1050, so hop it up a bit and you have a quicker and more agile standard to terrorize both city and country
Ummmm... maybe but how much heavier is the 1050 engine than the 800?

Isn't there a bit of beefing up to take the bigger engine adding to the weight?

Having said that - who knows, it might just work. Let us know when you have done the swap and how you got on...
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Old 11-13-2010, 06:59 PM   #2081
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Frame
Tubular steel trellis
Swingarm
Braced, twin-sided, aluminium alloy
Front Wheel
Cast aluminium alloy, 36 spoke, 21 x 2.5in
Rear Wheel
Cast aluminium alloy, 32 spoke, 17 x 4.25in
Front Tyre
90/90 ZR 21
Rear Tyre
150/70 ZR 17
Front Suspension
Showa 45mm upside down forks with adjustable preload, rebound and compression damping, 220mm travel
Rear Suspension
Showa Monoshock with adjustable preload and rebound damping 215mm rear wheel travel
Front Brakes
Twin 308mm floating discs, Nissin 4 piston radial calipers (ABS model available)
Rear Brakes
Single 255mm disc, Nissin 2 piston sliding caliper (ABS model available)
This is how the Canadian spec. sheet reads. Glad I am buying mine here.lol


Probably gonna charge extra for the 4 piston brakes and adjustable legs?
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:17 PM   #2082
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Unless different areas are getting different setups, the person in charge of specs at Triumph should be fired!!
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Old 11-13-2010, 08:30 PM   #2083
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Unless different areas are getting different setups, the person in charge of specs at Triumph should be fired!!
No kidding... I went through quite a few of the worldwide Triumph web sites just for kicks and it looks like only the US and UK sites don't specify an adjustable front suspension.

Even the Italians get it

Ciclistica

Sospensione (A)
Forcella Showa con steli rovesciati da 45mm, regolabile nel precarico e nell’idraulica in compressione e ritorno, escursione 220mm
Sospensione (P)
Monoammortizzatore Showa, regolazione remota del precarico e del ritorno, escursione 215mm
Freni (A)
Doppio disco da 308mm, pinze Nissin radiali a 4 pistoncini (ABS optional)
Freni (P)
Disco da 255mm, pinza Nissin a 2 pistoncini (ABS optional)

What's the deal? And adjustable front would definitely make me feel better after being somewhat disappointed in the price.
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Old 11-13-2010, 08:47 PM   #2084
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No kidding... I went through quite a few of the worldwide Triumph web sites just for kicks and it looks like only the US and UK sites don't specify an adjustable front suspension.

Even the Italians get it

Ciclistica

Sospensione (A)
Forcella Showa con steli rovesciati da 45mm, regolabile nel precarico e nell’idraulica in compressione e ritorno, escursione 220mm
Sospensione (P)
Monoammortizzatore Showa, regolazione remota del precarico e del ritorno, escursione 215mm
Freni (A)
Doppio disco da 308mm, pinze Nissin radiali a 4 pistoncini (ABS optional)
Freni (P)
Disco da 255mm, pinza Nissin a 2 pistoncini (ABS optional)

What's the deal? And adjustable front would definitely make me feel better after being somewhat disappointed in the price.
I think that the specs with 2 discs and adjustable front suspension are some preliminary ('old') specifications that have been updated for UK and US sites but not for all languages.

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Old 11-13-2010, 08:56 PM   #2085
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On the UK site, under the "features" it mentions that the front suspension is adjustable. But thats all
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