Triumph Tiger 800

[jphish]

Midpack - Any idea how long before Jessie will go public with his 'drawing board" ? Would love to see what he's got in mind. j

[Adv Grifter]

Originally Posted by Johno33772

Just tweak the bend to fit, they work just fine.

Spot on! I've had to bend and tweak just about every bark buster set up I've done on many different dirt bikes. Those look good!
Good clearance yet protection for brake reservoir. Nice!

[Mercury264]

Originally Posted by Adv Grifter

Spot on! I've had to bend and tweak just about every bark buster set up I've done on many different dirt bikes. Those look good!
Good clearance yet protection for brake reservoir. Nice!

I detest installing bark busters

[Deano955]

July 19, 2011

My 2012 Triumph Tiger XC is still in the shop. I dropped it off for it's 500 mile service on July 5, 2011. I took delivery June 17, 2011. The last time I got to ride it (other than riding it to the shop) was June 25, 2011.



I know there are many of you here that don't care to read this. There's been speculation about the percentage of bikes sold vs the owners posting on forums and the notion of forum posters only posting about problems with their bikes. There's some truth to that. What strikes me is that there are many with this sort of issue with their brand new Triumph Tiger 800's. I'm not alone with this issue although that does not give me comfort. Given that this is a great forum to discuss motorcycles, I'd like to continue to bring up issues with mine.

Some of you have paid attention to my posts. I appreciate that. Some of you may be reading this for the first time. The cliff notes are that I took my bike in for the 500 mile service, mentioned that the idle seemed to stick around 2k rpms intermittently and asked the dealer to look into that. Other than that the bike seemed great.

The Update:

I spoke to the owner of Erico Motorsports, where I purchased the bike but did not take it to for this service, today. If you are curious why I did not take it there look further back into this thread. To his credit, which I appreciate, he is trying to help. But there isn't much he can do with the bike in the local competitor's shop. I don't know if his shop would have been better this time around but that is not the point at this time. He told me that he has had one other Tiger 800 in his shop with what sounds to him to be the same problem. He can't be entirely sure because his shop has not seen my bike. He told me that his lead Triumph tech had a solution to this problem: A temporary solution until Triumph figures out a permanent one. Not sure what that means but it raises an eyebrow. I don't know for sure how many new TIGER 800'S Erico has sold but I would guess it to be around 6 as of this posting. I know they had 3 come in on order before mine. Of the estimated 6 that they have sold, 2 have had problems that have been brought to his attention. That's potentially one third of their sales.

I got a call from Foothills BMW Triumph, where my bike is being serviced, last Thursday with an update. Triumph has determined by way of their ability to access my bike's ECU via the internet that it needs a new throttle body assembly. The throttle position sensor will not stay in adjustment and one other part that I can't remember is affected as well. All of these parts are grouped into the throttle body assembly and therefore, mine needs to be replaced. The service manager could not give me a date when the part would arrive. He said sometimes parts from the UK get caught up in customs and it takes longer to get them. Not sure what to think about that. It seems to me that Triumph could put the assembly into a box and FedEx or DHL the thing over night if they cared to.

They don't seem to care to.

I'm in a pickle and can't ride my motorcicle....

[av_mech]

Originally Posted by Deano955

July 19, 2011

Triumph has determined by way of their ability to access my bike's ECU via the internet that it needs a new throttle body assembly.

I believe you're the second person I've read about Triumph saying this to that this is the solution. Good luck!!

[eye.surgeon]

Oh the joys of early adapting. I've been there.

[av_mech]

Originally Posted by Johno33772

Just tweak the bend to fit, they work just fine.

Forgive me for being thick...but I need a bit more clarification please.

From your picture and the help of the Cycra website HERE, I have determined those are the standard Pro Bends. Not the CRM model. The Power Grip ends come with the bars and shield. The only remaining question is what part number U-clamps are those? The ones for the Nekken bars (1056-02)? I guess that would make sense, but stranger things have happened.

Got any more pics of how they look on the bike? Any issues with cables? How's the clearance between the bars, your fingers, and the levers?

Thanks for your patience with me. I really am quite mechanically inclined, but I am going to order them from the net for the best price and I wanna get it right the first time. Thanks!

[Romulux]

Low sided the Tiger last Friday on the way to work. First time I've been down (had my motorcycle endorsement for 4+ years now).

It was basically a section of road that forces a U-turn. I have taken this road a hundred times and while I've noticed it can be slightly slick (lots of oily trucks as it's a necessary section of road to enter the highway), it was my fault for travelling slightly too fast and turning too aggressively.

I was going between 15 and 20 miles per hour and the crash was about as mild as a crash can be. I was turning, turning, and then sliding. I don't believe I touched the brakes or blipped the throttle, just applied too much (counter)steering. Not sure if the front or rear was lost first. I slid a few meters, the bike kept going straight across the road and "gently" bumped the opposite curb with its tires. I got up, picked the bike up, and went to work. My damage was a quarter sized abrasion on my arm and mildly poked my index finger. Wear your gear.

I foresee trouble for a lot of owners with the rear footpegs. The crash couldn't have been much gentler unless I wasn't moving at all and the rear left footpeg is tweaked slightly. The weld joint has slightly fractured the powder coating so that it's flaking a bit around the weld.

Other damage includes plastic abrasion, small crack in the plastic, left cover abrasion, clutch lever broken and clutch pedal abrasion, left front turn signal broken, the "friction plate" that keeps the rear footpeg locked in the up position broke so it won't stay up. Side stand, foot peg, bottom chain guard, left handlebar mirror and end slider abraded.

I'm replacing the turn signal and clutch lever. The rest I'll leave for now as a reminder to not be stupid.


Crashing sucks. There's nothing worse than seeing your wonderful bike sparking and skidding away from you. Photos here.


On the upside, my Micatech luggage shipped and will be here Thursday!

[jphish]

Romulux - glad you're ok! ATGATT probably saved some skin and perhaps more - Smart! The 800 aint that badly damaged. Mine has a few scratches too (low speed tip over) I would get any weld cracks remedied though - dont want any rust / corrosion in there. j

[av_mech]

Originally Posted by Romulux

Low sided the Tiger last Friday on the way to work. First time I've been down (had my motorcycle endorsement for 4+ years now).

It was basically a section of road that forces a U-turn. I have taken this road a hundred times and while I've noticed it can be slightly slick (lots of oily trucks as it's a necessary section of road to enter the highway), it was my fault for travelling slightly too fast and turning too aggressively.

I was going between 15 and 20 miles per hour and the crash was about as mild as a crash can be. I was turning, turning, and then sliding. I don't believe I touched the brakes or blipped the throttle, just applied too much (counter)steering. Not sure if the front or rear was lost first. I slid a few meters, the bike kept going straight across the road and "gently" bumped the opposite curb with its tires. I got up, picked the bike up, and went to work. My damage was a quarter sized abrasion on my arm and mildly poked my index finger. Wear your gear.

I foresee trouble for a lot of owners with the rear footpegs. The crash couldn't have been much gentler unless I wasn't moving at all and the rear left footpeg is tweaked slightly. The weld joint has slightly fractured the powder coating so that it's flaking a bit around the weld.

Other damage includes plastic abrasion, small crack in the plastic, left cover abrasion, clutch lever broken and clutch pedal abrasion, left front turn signal broken, the "friction plate" that keeps the rear footpeg locked in the up position broke so it won't stay up. Side stand, foot peg, bottom chain guard, left handlebar mirror and end slider abraded.

I'm replacing the turn signal and clutch lever. The rest I'll leave for now as a reminder to not be stupid.


Crashing sucks. There's nothing worse than seeing your wonderful bike sparking and skidding away from you. Photos here.


On the upside, my Micatech luggage shipped and will be here Thursday!

I had my first crash the other day too. I got a little happy with the throttle on wet gravel. Bent my rear brake up a bit. Good on ya Triumph for making a steel lever as opposed to a cast one!!



I wear ATGATT religiously. I HIGHLY recommend a Thor Impact Rig. Awesome under the jacket and even better with no jacket to stay cool.



Get some big ass crash guards like the ones that Happy Trails made for me. They'll be on sale soon.



Bottom line... Glad you're OK!!! Seriously. Crashing sucks. Really happy to hear when someone walks away.

[Deano955]

Originally Posted by Romulux

Low sided the Tiger last Friday on the way to work. First time I've been down (had my motorcycle endorsement for 4+ years now).

It was basically a section of road that forces a U-turn. I have taken this road a hundred times and while I've noticed it can be slightly slick (lots of oily trucks as it's a necessary section of road to enter the highway), it was my fault for travelling slightly too fast and turning too aggressively.

I was going between 15 and 20 miles per hour and the crash was about as mild as a crash can be. I was turning, turning, and then sliding. I don't believe I touched the brakes or blipped the throttle, just applied too much (counter)steering. Not sure if the front or rear was lost first. I slid a few meters, the bike kept going straight across the road and "gently" bumped the opposite curb with its tires. I got up, picked the bike up, and went to work. My damage was a quarter sized abrasion on my arm and mildly poked my index finger. Wear your gear.

I foresee trouble for a lot of owners with the rear footpegs. The crash couldn't have been much gentler unless I wasn't moving at all and the rear left footpeg is tweaked slightly. The weld joint has slightly fractured the powder coating so that it's flaking a bit around the weld.

Other damage includes plastic abrasion, small crack in the plastic, left cover abrasion, clutch lever broken and clutch pedal abrasion, left front turn signal broken, the "friction plate" that keeps the rear footpeg locked in the up position broke so it won't stay up. Side stand, foot peg, bottom chain guard, left handlebar mirror and end slider abraded.

I'm replacing the turn signal and clutch lever. The rest I'll leave for now as a reminder to not be stupid.


Crashing sucks. There's nothing worse than seeing your wonderful bike sparking and skidding away from you. Photos here.


On the upside, my Micatech luggage shipped and will be here Thursday!

That stinks! At least it was just a flesh wound...

The welded passenger pegs will surely be redesigned in my opinion. The demo bike at the dealership I bought mine from was similarly low sided and resulted in a bent right side passenger peg and frame. The salesman told me that the bike could be totalled for the bent frame.

Fix yours up and get on with it. At least it's running!

BTW I went to WMU in Kalamazoo. One of my best buddies is a Kalamazoo Public Safety officer (K-9 unit). How's things in the zoo?

[Adv Grifter]

Originally Posted by Deano955

What strikes me is that there are many with this sort of issue with their brand new Triumph Tiger 800's. I'm not alone with this issue although that does not give me comfort. Given that this is a great forum to discuss motorcycles, I'd like to continue to bring up issues with mine.

Deano,
Many of us are watching and waiting ... and hoping for a good outcome on this. Summer is short ... it's a shame your bike is spending prime riding months in the shop.

You are not alone. Indeed, the brazen ladies of Canada doing the AK trip on "borrowed" Tiger XC's also appear to be having stalling issues ... but they are continuing on ... so maybe not too bad an issue. I would not want to be in AK ... or Mexico ... or Peru' to discover these problems. Shake down rides are the way to go.

Fingers crossed for good luck and good vibes coming your way.

[Adv Grifter]

Originally Posted by Romulux

Crashing sucks. There's nothing worse than seeing your wonderful bike sparking and skidding away from you. Photos here.

Crashing sucks BIG TIME! Glad you're OK ... that is what is important. Hang in there ... painful as it is now, the bike can be brought back to like new. Bikes are cheap and expendable compared to unrepairable body parts. Tomorrow will be a better day!

[Vzuke]

Johno33772,

I wish I would have known about the brackets that you had for your Cycra hand guards, those are sweet!

Looking through the web site I think I found the ones that you have:
U-Clamp ‘08 Pro Taper/KTM OEM Renthal Taper/Neken – (#1156-02)
Did you special order those separately or were they apart of a “kit”.

av_mech,

I believe they take into account the decreasing diameter of the bar for the clamps. Just as long as you order the diameter of the handle bar that is at your handle bar mounting point.

I ordered the PROBEND CRM – 1 1/8” BARS COMPLETE RACER PACK from the CYCRA web site. They came with the Center Reach Mount.

I guess the Tiger bars are too wide for this set up because the center reach mount did not make it to where they are in the picture. That is what threw the hand guard bar mounting angle off since it was further up the bend in the bar.

The other problem I had was, without spacers at the end of the bars there wasn’t any clearance for the clutch and brake levers when they were pulled in. You could move the controls inward but then you would have to cut/file the pins off the switch modules.

I voiced all my concerns in the comment section when I ordered them but I don’t think anyone reads that section.

By the way the replacement Barkbusters went on with little effort. They provided a 1/2” round spacer at the end of the bars for lever clearance.

[blacktiger]

Originally Posted by Mercury264

BT - what's the scoop on the 95 limit - is it some ECC (fecking retards) thing ? Is it due to some tiered licensing sort of thing ? I know there was a reason Triumph kept it below 95 and I always assumed it was down to some legislation....

It is to do with tiered licencing. At the moment we have to pass the main test riding a bike of at least 47bhp and the EU is proposing another level at twice that. Hence 94bhp for the Tiger.
I'm not too well informed about all this because it doesn't really concern me having had my full licence for 37 years. So I don't know the full details.
Triumph has a history of this with the Tiger955i which is rated at 104bhp. France introduced a limit of 105Ps some years ago and the Tiger fits nicely. However, there are moves afoot within the EU for complete uniformity so they're trying to persuade France to scrap that limit. BUT..................now France is introducing all sorts of other shit like having to wear hi-viz.....................don't get me started!