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Old 08-28-2011, 06:52 AM   #8191
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I have something else you might try. I was getting a lot of rattling UNTIL I tightened the head bearings.
The centre stand does come away from its rubber stop but it needs quite a hefty bump or whoop to get it to do it. Not just the general stutter bumps you're encountering on most of your video.
To check if your head bearings need adjustment, ride along at about 20mph and apply the front brakes HARD. If you get a clonk, you need to adjust.
That is a great point, I will check on the head bearings.
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Old 08-28-2011, 07:54 AM   #8192
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I had the head bearing clunk and was told by the selling dealer that it was the nature of floating front disks.

How stupid do some dealers think we are?

Needless to say I found a new dealer.
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Old 08-28-2011, 08:25 AM   #8193
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Tune 20628 is now available on TuneECU's site. That just happens to be the one I need for my bike (800 ABS w/ standard silencer) so maybe I'll play with it later.
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:18 AM   #8194
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Just using the Compare Maps feature of TuneECU, here's what's different between 20495 and 20628:

- No difference in all of the F tables.

- L1 table - changed values in the 400 - 1100 rpm range and 625 - 860 hPa range (numbers all increased).

- L2 table - changed values in the 400 - 1300 rpm range and 664 - 860 hPa range (numbers all increased).

- L3 table - changed values in the 400 - 1300 rpm range and 664 - 860 hPa range (numbers all increased).

- I1 table - changed values in the 400 - 3500 rpm range and 0 - 3% throttle range (increased ignition advance at lower rpm and decreased at higher).

- I2 table - changed values in the 400 - 3000 rpm range and 0 - 3% throttle range (similar to I1 but not identical)

- I3 table - changed values in the 400 - 1500 rpm range and 0 - 3% throttle range (similar to the others but not as many changed values).

- I(N) table - changed values in the 400 - 3000 rpm range and 0 - 3% throttle range (similar to the others).

A/F table - no changes

Idle table -
idle speed at -13 deg. C unchanged at 1500 rpm.
Idle speed at 20 deg C increased from 1349 to 1386 rpm.
Idle speed at 35 deg C increased from 1280 rpm to 1335 rpm.
Idle speed at 57 deg C increased from 1181 rpm to 1261 rpm.
Idle speed at 74 deg C increased from 1100 rpm to 1200 rpm.
(the temps referenced above are coolant temps, not ambient temps)

F-L Switch table - no change, still 4% throttle at all rpms.
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Old 08-28-2011, 12:02 PM   #8195
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Loaded 20628 and went for a little test ride. I like the new tune, seems to have softened that on/off throttle response a bit. I didn't have stalling problems before so I can't speak to that but I haven't had stalling problems afterward either.
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:29 PM   #8196
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Yes, they are the 31 & 38 L. I did not paint them; they are anodized silver. The last bare aluminum bag I had got residue all over everything I put it in.

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On the old Happy Trails aluminum bags I have, I used Contact Paper on the inside. The kind of sticky stuff that people put on shelves and such. I find this to be better than powder coat as it quiets down things bouncing around the inside. The outside looks better in raw aluminum too, in my opinion.
The bags I have were on the KLR I used to have. I considered using Happy Trails mounts and the old bags, but that would have been about 42" wide and I thought that was too much. I think the ideal thing in afterthought would be if I got the SW Motech racks and cut some inches of the right side bag. Would have been cheaper and lighter than the Jesse bags and would have had a more home made look to them. As it is, I went for the jesse bags. heavy and wide, but nice stuff.
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:41 PM   #8197
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I had the new tune installed yesterday. My XC idles a lot smoother, & no stalling. I did notice the new tune calls for atleast 91 octane. No air filter change. I tried to recreate when I had problems (extremely hot stop & go traffic) with no stalling.
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Old 08-28-2011, 02:55 PM   #8198
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I had the new tune installed yesterday. My XC idles a lot smoother, & no stalling. I did notice the new tune calls for atleast 91 octane.
Let's not get this confusion started again. The tune requires 87 octane as measured by the CLC method used in the USA. 87 octane by the CLC method is equivalent to 91 by the RON method. So it is also true to say that the Tiger 800 requires minimum 91 RON octane, except that is useless information and needlessly confusing since we don't use that method to measure octane in the U.S.

If you are in the USA, use 87 octane.
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Old 08-28-2011, 03:54 PM   #8199
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Let's not get this confusion started again. The tune requires 87 octane as measured by the CLC method used in the USA. 87 octane by the CLC method is equivalent to 91 by the RON method. So it is also true to say that the Tiger 800 requires minimum 91 RON octane, except that is useless information and needlessly confusing since we don't use that method to measure octane in the U.S.

If you are in the USA, use 87 octane.
I'd use virgin snake piss if it prevents stalling!
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Old 08-28-2011, 06:11 PM   #8200
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Old 08-28-2011, 10:11 PM   #8201
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I made two sets of hole patterns in the quick release plate, so it works on both the Tiger and the Dakar.

Why would you want both of these bikes? They are so similar... Granted the Triumph triple has more power but the all purpose aspects of the two bikes are incredibly similar.
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Old 08-29-2011, 12:01 AM   #8202
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Why would you want both of these bikes? They are so similar... Granted the Triumph triple has more power but the all purpose aspects of the two bikes are incredibly similar.
He likes to get the spanners out occasionally so he still needs the BMW

The Tiger is for riding.
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Old 08-29-2011, 05:16 AM   #8203
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He likes to get the spanners out occasionally so he still needs the BMW

The Tiger is for riding.
Or perhaps..... when the Tiger stalls he can jump on the BMW and ride away.

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Old 08-29-2011, 07:08 AM   #8204
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Why would you want both of these bikes? They are so similar... Granted the Triumph triple has more power but the all purpose aspects of the two bikes are incredibly similar.
Why not?


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Old 08-29-2011, 07:36 AM   #8205
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He likes to get the spanners out occasionally so he still needs the BMW

The Tiger is for riding.
That BMW has never broken down... has never stalled either.
Only problem it has ever had was a discharged battery, when I was away for 6 months and forgot to connect it to a tender.

And it will beat the Tiger on the dirt roads. I know this for a fact. I have them both and I rode both of them on the same road I use to test my bikes' set up. Compared to the Tiger, that BMW is a light weight.

The Tiger... I bought it for the road. And it beats the BMW on that department.

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