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Old 10-21-2010, 05:29 PM   #856
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I know how much a F650GS weighs, my wife put 13,000 miles on one. 185 kg it is NOT! Now I just wonder is Triumph fibbing about their weight also? I saw somewhere else that it was 210 kg, which is easier to believe.
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Old 10-21-2010, 05:35 PM   #857
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very nice! I like the street version! I can't wait to see/learn more about this bike.
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Old 10-21-2010, 06:24 PM   #858
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I know how much a F650GS weighs, my wife put 13,000 miles on one. 185 kg it is NOT! Now I just wonder is Triumph fibbing about their weight also? I saw somewhere else that it was 210 kg, which is easier to believe.
It has to do with how manufacturers are going away from listing weights as "dry weights" to bikes now are listed as "wet weights" (mostly fueled up, ready to ride). Looking at the MCN snippet, the 185kg weight they list for both bikes must be a "dry" weight.

regardless, the 210kg wet weight ray_rev indicated would be competitive with the F800GS.

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Old 10-21-2010, 06:32 PM   #859
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Other than the obvious F800, doesn't this remind you a bit of the original Multistrada? Basically an upright sports bike with leverage style handle bars?


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Old 10-21-2010, 07:02 PM   #860
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also, I'm sure about the rest of the world.. but in Oz, the Triumph is not what I would call a very reliable brand.. I know at least 4 people with Triumphs of one sort or another, and all have had issues with their bikes.. and have heard many stories of similar "issues" from other riders/owners

the welding on all their frames is messy (lots of splatter), paint poor and the general fit and finish is not as good as their Japanese counterparts..

the motor's however are a blast to ride.. but I'm not sure how they'll go in a bike designed to be ridden offroad.. we'll wait and see
Sorry mate gotta call bullshit on that one. I have owned five Triumphs so far and still have two in my shed. Over the past ten years I have been heavily involved in all manner of gatherings with this brand and their owners. A lot of us have put a lot of miles on these bikes and I have to say the reliability is as good as anything the Japanese, or any other manufacturer has produced. Sure, there have been issues and recalls, but no vehicle manufacturer is free from that. With regular/scheduled servicing a Triumph will purr for a long time.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:21 PM   #861
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One thing we do know is that the Tiger has the fuel mounted higher in the actual tank, the GS has it under the seat. Couple that with the higher 3 cylinder engine and I would think any comparison test would be able to feel the top heavy difference in low to mid speed handling off road.
The potential for a well designed 3 cylinder adventure bike is huge particularly with the relatively shorter stroke (engine height) in comparision to a twin or single of comparable capacity and bore / stroke ratio. However if the basic design principle of keeping the centre of gravity as low as possible is ignored - as it apparently is on these bikes - I absolutely agree that rider effort / input and handling will be nowhere near optimal......... same shit just different bike.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:22 PM   #862
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It has to do with how manufacturers are going away from listing weights as "dry weights" to bikes now are listed as "wet weights" (mostly fueled up, ready to ride). Looking at the MCN snippet, the 185kg weight they list for both bikes must be a "dry" weight.

regardless, the 210kg wet weight ray_rev indicated would be competitive with the F800GS.
I am going to take it one step farther and say if you want to know how much your bike really weighs, weigh it. My guess is most folks will be surprised to find out how much their bike really weighs. I weighed my G650 Xchallenge using the one wheel at a time bathroom scale method, and it came out to 369 LBS. That is the stock bike, full fuel tank, added bash plate, ohlins shock, luggage rack, Renazco seat. O did not have the soft luggage frames. I plan to take to to a local place with a certified scale to double check that, but I am sure my number is within a few lbs.

Motorcycle manufactures have been lying about motorcycle weight for years. Yeah, before they were lying about the dry weight, now they are lying about the wet weight.

I would like to see a post your motorcycle weight thread on ADV, in fact, I might start one after I get the bike weighed at a certified scale. People talk about their 300LB DR 650, mine weighed 354LBS useing the same scale and method. It had stuff taken off of it but it was not stripped down.
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:55 PM   #863
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Old 10-21-2010, 07:59 PM   #864
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I think we already did a thread.

I weighed both the F650GS and my Tiger 1050 with panniers and crashbars ready to go. Tiger was like 575, GS was like 22 lbs less, very surprised at that.

But after having to pick it up several times I believe it now!

The little WR250R thumper is like 300+lbs.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:01 PM   #865
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:08 PM   #866
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Nice bike!

Still not a fan of the triple motor. Why can't Suzuki make a kick ass updated Vstrom 800 just like the new Tiger?
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:13 PM   #867
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Finally !!! Something to really talk about!! Too bad Triumph made a BMW... Its a shame, I was hoping for something much better. If the wheels dont bend, the radiator doesnt crush, gas tank doesnt leak, rear suspension bolt doesnt bend maybe they will get some sales from the BMW guys who are fed up with the F800GS.

Dont get me wrong, I am not bashing the bike. I dont know enough about it yet to have a solid opinion. One thing is for sure they made no effort to set themselves apart from BMW in the style department. I dont know what I was hoping for but, this aint it...as far as looks go.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:27 PM   #868
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I think we already did a thread.

I weighed both the F650GS and my Tiger 1050 with panniers and crashbars ready to go. Tiger was like 575, GS was like 22 lbs less, very surprised at that.

But after having to pick it up several times I believe it now!

The little WR250R thumper is like 300+lbs.
Yep, I found it. This page has a lot of info.

http://www.advrider.com/forums/showt...ighlight=weigh

Oh, I am loving these new tiger pics. And as far as the weight discussion goes, this is in Beasts, huh.
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Old 10-21-2010, 08:40 PM   #869
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Front Brake Lines

I believe what you are seeing on the XC is a high crossover brake line so when we replace the low front fender we won't have to mess with the brake line. Unlike on the 950 Adventure.

The 675 motor is a gem. Stroking it will only help for this application. Wet sump motor makes maintenance easier. People complain about the look of the sump, give me a break, an oil tank with a sight gauge is no thing of beauty.


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Old 10-21-2010, 09:08 PM   #870
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I believe what you are seeing on the XC is a high crossover brake line so when we replace the low front fender we won't have to mess with the brake line. Unlike on the 950 Adventure.
But the crossover isn't high, it hugs the fender. It looks like the line comes down on the left side, big loop to the right caliper and then tight loop to the left caliper. This back and forth thing is kind of odd but maybe the reason for it will be obvious once we see the bike in person.

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