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Old 07-27-2010, 04:57 PM   #16
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Never been to a Better Homes and Gardens or cook book forum but thanks for showing how narrow minded you are. Too bad you have to share the forum with women. Typical man. Oh wait, did I just stereotype you? How rude!

I'm very sad because you quoted from my fav movie in your sig too. /sigh
Don't get your panties in a knot. Narrow minded? Hey... I did get your better homes and gardens lingo did I not. :-).
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Old 07-27-2010, 07:57 PM   #17
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Great thread ebrabaek! I'm very interested to see how this turns out. I don't know much about carbon fiber, usually when I see it on car hoods and things its unpainted. Is it possible to paint it so that the look and texture of it matches the originally exactly (ie it would be indistinguishable from the original)? And how does the weight compare to the original plastic parts?
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Old 07-27-2010, 08:10 PM   #18
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Great thread ebrabaek! I'm very interested to see how this turns out. I don't know much about carbon fiber, usually when I see it on car hoods and things its unpainted. Is it possible to paint it
Yes....Sand and paint, just like you would any other piece.

so that the look and texture of it matches the originally exactly (ie it would be indistinguishable from the original)? And how does the weight compare
Stocker is 213 grams......New piece is 179 grams...... But it was made with 3 layers of fabric.....2 would have been more than enough, but the new piece will need to be stronger to house switches...plugs..etc. If I had only used 2 layers, which would still have been way stronger than stock, it would have weighed in at about half of the stock piece.

to the original plastic parts?
Thinking about trying it????



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Old 07-28-2010, 08:06 AM   #19
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Question heat shield

Would a few layers of this wrapped around the stock exhaust be enough to act as a heat shield? Looking for a poor man's way to keep the exhaust from burning myself, a tarp, or possibly some soft luggage.

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Old 07-28-2010, 08:37 AM   #20
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Would a few layers of this wrapped around the stock exhaust be enough to act as a heat shield? Looking for a poor man's way to keep the exhaust from burning myself, a tarp, or possibly some soft luggage.

Thanks
Unfortunately not. Although less of a heat cunductor than SS.....CF will still transmit too much heat if mounted on top of the SS. A CF shield 1/2 to 1 inch away on the other hand, would be sufficient.

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Old 07-28-2010, 08:48 AM   #21
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Is the CF part larger than the original since its not actually a mold?
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:55 AM   #22
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Is the CF part larger than the original since its not actually a mold?
Yes...by 1 1/4mm.......In this application...not an issue.


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Old 07-28-2010, 08:58 AM   #23
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Finished.......After 1 hr of finish sanding........It was finally ready to coat with a of the shelf automotive spray lacquer, with a uv inhibitor......



After two layers of lacquer......



And finally .... next to original piece......


In a few minutes.....on the bike......


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Old 07-28-2010, 09:18 AM   #24
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Finally on the bike.......

Finished......and on the bike.......






So all in all.....4.5 to 5 hrs of labor......... It is an easy project for the first timers........material under US$50........ In closing..... This piece will be build upon in a few weeks. The part I wanted to promote.....is how easy this particular project is/was. Even for the total beginner......double the labor....and you still only have 10 hrs in it. Next project is a CF/Kevlar honeycomb skidplate.....But that`s another story..... Post up questions....there are many material questions....I`m sure.....I`m here to help. Off for a test ride........

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Old 07-28-2010, 10:31 AM   #25
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Very Nice work!
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Old 07-28-2010, 11:09 AM   #26
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Not that I expect it to be significant, but have you had a chance to see of there's any weight difference between yours and the OEM part?

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Old 07-28-2010, 11:44 AM   #27
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David,
You missed a spot. Check post #20 (the green text).




Ebrabaek,
Very cool...keep up the good work and keep showing us!!!
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Old 07-28-2010, 12:00 PM   #28
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Thanks for taking the time...interesting project

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Finished......and on the bike.....Next project is a CF/Kevlar honeycomb skidplate.....But that`s another story..... Post up questions....there are many material questions....I`m sure.....I`m here to help. Off for a test ride....
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Very interesting project – thanks for taking the time and harrassment..

Questions:
1)Could you cut and paste a corrected list of supplies I made below? (know some of it is wrong, or duplicated)
2)Could you make a modifed list for making a bash plate ? (ie. Stronger material)
3)How high a risk of ruining the OEM plastics with making the mold ?
4)Wouldn’t the skid/bash plate be a safe first project since if you screw it up a little and can’t see, it your safe.

(Could you check my list of supplies and cut and paste corrected list for anyone else's interest).

Supplies:
Silmer 249 – Polyester (USComposites)
Epoxy (Brand ?)
Resin (Brand ?)
Automotive Spray Lacquer (with UV inhibitor)
Twill 5.7 oz Cloth (Brand?)
Sand paper – 80 grit (rough sanding)
Sand paper – 220 grit (finish sanding)
Black Electric Tape
Plastic Cups for mixing
Wax (with high carnuba wax) (is that just car wax?)
Parafilm (nold release spray?)
Resin with wax - ???
Surfacing wax Modifier – C
 
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Dremmel
Paint sprayer/compressor (needed ?)
Brushes (?)
 

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Old 07-28-2010, 12:40 PM   #29
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Very interesting project – thanks for taking the time and harrassment..

Questions:
1)Could you cut and paste a corrected list of supplies I made below? (know some of it is wrong, or duplicated)
Absolutely.

2)Could you make a modifed list for making a bash plate ? (ie. Stronger material)
The skid plate will feature a little different layup...Since it will be a structural item. There is a bit more to that, than I can paste here....But I will start it soon. That will be a really interesting project.

3)How high a risk of ruining the OEM plastics with making the mold ?
None..... Well... I had a little raised plastic because I used polyester....but it has since subtracted, and is almost not apparent. I would say use epoxy on plastic.... There is no conflict between the two materials.

4)Wouldn’t the skid/bash plate be a safe first project since if you screw it up a little and can’t see, it your safe.
.....One could say yes.....That construction ( skid plate) most of the time will be in building a styroform mold that suits your nature.... That`s the complicated part......The extra layup is a piece of cake. And I don`t plan on sanding it.

(Could you check my list of supplies and cut and paste corrected list for anyone else's interest).

Supplies:

Carbon Fiber Cloth.....5.7 oz twill http://uscomposites.com/carbonpage.html

Silmar 249 – Polyester (USComposites) http://uscomposites.com/polyesters.html

Epoxy (Brand ?) ...http://cgi.ebay.com/EPOXY-RESIN-CRYS...item483544bccc

Automotive Spray Lacquer (with UV inhibitor).....any will do...Key word uv protection. I used dupli color clear coat finish 8 oz. cost around $ 6
Sand paper – 80 grit (rough sanding)
Sand paper – 220 grit (finish sanding) then 800 grit and 1200 grit prior to last two coats of lacquer.

Black Electric Tape
Plastic Cups for mixing
Wax (with high carnuba wax) (is that just car wax?) Mirror glaze and Prize Driscoll http://uscomposites.com/moldrelease.html

Parafilm (mold release spray?) I use the above for polyester ,and this for epoxy..
http://cgi.ebay.com/MOLD-RELEASE-FIB...item483a24fc63

Resin with wax - ??? Some polyester resins have the surfacing wax mixed in... I don`t use them.
Surfacing wax Modifier
http://www.shopmaninc.com/solvents.html
 
Tools:
Dremel
Paint sprayer/compressor (needed ?) No
Brushes (?)
 

There are several places to get the resin etc.... But above are the links to where I get them... Don`t mind the fleabay. That is just a cheaper way to get it...Than their main website. They know their stuff.


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Old 07-28-2010, 01:05 PM   #30
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David,
You missed a spot. Check post #20 (the green text)
D'oh! Thanks Mike.

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