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Old 09-01-2010, 01:36 PM   #151
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Yeah, this Andrew fella is pretty amusing...

Lennie made it pretty clear that the $200 is a discounted price, individual or group. He WILL sell ONLY direct and IMHO, the price is one people should be happy with.

But I guess some people just feel the need to "overclarify" or be "front runners"... You are a little late to the party, Andrew... let alone a little slow on comprehending. Although, you efforts are truly appreciated....


By someone, I am sure.
If you can't be civil . . .
or are you Lennie's attack dog? :
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:43 PM   #152
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or are you Lennie's attack dog? :

...must ditto dat...
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Old 09-01-2010, 01:46 PM   #153
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Old 09-01-2010, 02:22 PM   #154
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Just to clarify, the pricing of $200.00 is in Australian dollars. I charge $10.00 postage and handling.

At current exchange rates that makes it $191.36 USD according to www.xe.com.

The US dealer pricing was $225.00 USD or about $246.00 AUD. I had the retail price set here at $250.00.

A group buy is good for me as Andrew expalins a single transaction and there might be a savings on postage too.

I have tried to join here a couple of times as I intend to buy a GS when I recover enough financially to buy a bike later in the year.

I do appreciate all of the discussion about the sprockets and I am aware of its exposure here. Whatever I get in sales is a bonus as I have an income stream from elsewhere.

It is true that once people start using the product and are satisfied that will then improve sales and I will appreciate the extra income. This will allow me to look into further development for the R1200 searies including the new overhead cam bike as well.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:31 PM   #155
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Andrew,

What numbers do you think you can get on a group buy?

If there is a significant number I will consider a further gorup discount with a single transaction and possibly a small savings on postage for a single package.

If you are happy to do the leg work there in the USA for the group buy I am happy for that to happen too.

As far as attack dogs, I have my own teeth.
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Old 09-01-2010, 03:35 PM   #156
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As far as attack dogs, I have my own teeth.
LOL... THAT, you DO!
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:08 PM   #157
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Old 09-02-2010, 05:04 PM   #158
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I have good news.

I went to visit my machinist friend Brian today and used his mill to drill the locating pin holes with a 3 mm carbide drill.

In measuring a sample of 12 sprockets the size ranged from 2.91 mm to 2.93 mm.

This along with the loctite securing the pins explains the effort required to remove the pins with a drift.

After drilling the holes they measured 2.98 mm to 2.99 mm.

I have calculated the I have removed between 1.6 thou and 2.1 thou from the holes.

This now allows the pins to be fitted with light pressure from my small hammer for fitting with no sign of the existing cracks opening at all.

I will post photos tomorrow as I have had long day and wish to rest.


explain to me how a 3.mm drill would drill undersized?
never happen. never ever happen...
thats what reamers are for. drill undersized and ream to size.
a 3.0mm carbide will drill close to +.20-.25 over every time.
backwards logic.
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Old 09-02-2010, 06:14 PM   #159
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so are you having someone make these or just drilling new holes in off the shelf stockers?

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Old 09-02-2010, 06:56 PM   #160
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Dagwood,

These are made to order as there is no off the shelf sprockets made.

The orignal machinist drilled with a 3.0 mm drill then used a 3.0 mm ream.

The issue was that the heat treatment of case hardening shrinks the hole.

While you are correct about not drilling undersized, in using a 3.0 mm carbide drill to correct this issue, in using digital verniers I still only get a measurement of 2.98 and 2.99 mm on the drilled sprockets.

If I use a ball gauge for that size hole I may get a more acurate measurement but I do not have access to one at this point in time.

These batches are the first two CNC machined batches and have no other issue.

I have discussed with my manufacturer a test of a having 2 sprockets made with one just drilled to 3.0 mm and the other drilled then reamed to 3.0 mm and then to have them nitrited instead of case hardening.

This is all from my experience in making these sprockets over the last 10 years.

I hope this helps.
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Old 09-05-2010, 08:14 PM   #161
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Good news. I finished drilling all of the sprockets over the weekend.

I have also received orders here and fromt he Pelican board.

Thank you to all who have responded.
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Old 09-08-2010, 11:38 AM   #162
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explain to me how a 3.mm drill would drill undersized?
never happen. never ever happen...
thats what reamers are for. drill undersized and ream to size.
a 3.0mm carbide will drill close to +.20-.25 over every time.
backwards logic.
Obviously you have never worked with hard materials nor are you a machinist of any knowledge. Every material, every material behaves differently to the cutting tool material (HSS, Carbide, Ceramic, with coating without coating, type of coolant used, RPM, feed all factor into the equation as well as soft or hard spots in heat treated material), whether the hole is drilled from solid (most likely slight over-size) or opening an existing hole (will be under-size). Logic isn't involved as much as experience is. I suggest you stick to something you know about.

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Old 09-08-2010, 12:10 PM   #163
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Obviously you have never worked with hard materials nor are you a machinist of any knowledge. Every material, every material behaves differently to the cutting tool material (HSS, Carbide, Ceramic, with coating without coating, type of coolant used, RPM, feed all factor into the equation as well as soft or hard spots in heat treated material), whether the hole is drilled from solid (most likely slight over-size) or opening an existing hole (will be under-size). Logic isn't involved as much as experience is. I suggest you stick to something you know about.

Lennie's got a possie.

I'm out. Too many people checking in to pimp these things. Smells bad to me.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:16 PM   #164
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Old 09-08-2010, 02:40 PM   #165
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Selling outside of Vendors is not permitted, and the vendor should start his own thread if he's selling..

and let's keep it civil please.
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