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Old 08-16-2010, 07:45 AM   #46
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It's time for the post R&D pricing to drop. I'd pay under $100 for these, but not $225.
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Old 08-16-2010, 01:05 PM   #47
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It's time for the post R&D pricing to drop. I'd pay under $100 for these, but not $225.
I mentioned the price was a bit high and got flamed.
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Old 08-16-2010, 03:23 PM   #48
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under identical conditions, will these sprockets change fuel economy, if so, what changes should we see?

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See post #15.
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Old 08-16-2010, 03:37 PM   #49
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Hunsolo,

I have not had personal experience with the GS for 1st gear low end off road. Maybe someone here can speak from experience.
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Old 08-16-2010, 04:43 PM   #50
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I'd like to see a link for the installation instructions.
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Old 08-16-2010, 05:17 PM   #51
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See post #15.
would you believe it as fact if just one person said they got 40000km on a tire? I know that no one else disputed it but...
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Old 08-16-2010, 11:56 PM   #52
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Gas mileage will stay the same or better (if you don't change your riding style). I find that I rarely shift past 5000rpm simply because the sweet spot is now from 2500 to 4500 (lots of torque in that range). If anything, your fuel mileage may increase.

Loaded up with bags coming back from Laguna Seca I got over 40mpg while @ over 70mph.

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Old 08-17-2010, 04:06 AM   #53
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Gas mileage will stay the same or better (if you don't change your riding style). I find that I rarely shift past 5000rpm simply because the sweet spot is now from 2500 to 4500 (lots of torque in that range). If anything, your fuel mileage may increase.

Loaded up with bags coming back from Laguna Seca I got over 40mpg while @ over 70mph.

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Old 08-17-2010, 09:32 AM   #54
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I developed these sprockets in 2000 and have sold over 200 sets to date.

Lennie

Lennie,

So are you ready to sell more than 20/year? If you drop the price to under $100, you'll see them flying out of the shop...
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Old 08-17-2010, 11:14 AM   #55
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I don't think price is that big an issue for a performance upgrade

on a $18000 bike. Tires cost a lot more than $100. A service at the dealer costs a lot more.

For me, the inhibitions are:

1. Does it really work?
2. Will it decrease the longevity of the bike?
3. How hard is it to install?
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:00 PM   #56
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1. Does it really work?
Yup!

2. Will it decrease the longevity of the bike?
I really doubt it, how long will you keep that $18K bike?

3. How hard is it to install?
Not too bad if you are mechanically inclines and have the correct tools.
Be methodic.
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:03 PM   #57
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Tires are a must, modified cam sprocket is a luxury.
I agree with your 3 points, but I also factor in how much it would cost to modify. I don't mind spending the money, I just don't want to get gouged just because it's a BMW. Some don't have the means to modify it and don't mind spending the money which is their choice. Being a machinist for 30+ years I know what it costs and not willing to spend that much which is my choice. Don't get me wrong I think it's a good idea, just a bit high on the price. In the end the only person who has to be satisfied with it is you, and what anyone else thinks doesn't matter one bit.
I wouldn't even mind if they were in the $125-$150/ range for a pair, because new from BMW they are under $60 each.


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on a $18000 bike. Tires cost a lot more than $100. A service at the dealer costs a lot more.

For me, the inhibitions are:

1. Does it really work?
2. Will it decrease the longevity of the bike?
3. How hard is it to install?
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Old 08-17-2010, 12:59 PM   #58
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...rough crowd here Lennie, I shoulda warned ya...

I'm sure Len will be taking all this consensus in with a fair mind.
That said, he did take the time to develop, test, and manufacture the sprockets (and a few other well sorted add-ons), and he is in Australia.
I"m sure the price has little to do with the bike brand.

I've had guys who say they work in machine shops and tell me they could make my barbacks for 1/3rd of what I charge for them, but that's like saying one could make a clay pot dirt cheap (pun) if they had a throwing wheel and kiln.

I won't make a prediction, but I bet he'll be more than glad to do a group buy if there is true interest.

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Old 08-17-2010, 01:24 PM   #59
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I'm one of the machine shop guys, and nope I ain't gonna bust on him
over the price. I know how it is, folks coming in thinking your
time is worth nothing.

A little cut on a group buy might put me off the fence
though
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Old 08-17-2010, 01:32 PM   #60
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I'm not "busting" on anyone. I'm just saying I'm not interested at the current price.


Lennie, if you want to keep the price as is, for any reason, I'm cool with it. Whether you're still recovering R&D, or if you're just trying to limit the quantity because you have better things to do, or if it really does cost you that much to produce the sprockets, or if that's just your preference - all are good and valid reasons for your current pricing.


To the others who apparently feel Lennie needs a big brother to stick up for him, lighten up. What's the problem with stating the obvious in a open and respectful way?
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