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Old 11-24-2004, 04:01 AM   #1
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Anyone know anything about a Vor

I had never heard of them till last week.

Mate just picked up this thing...620 cc i think. Me .. Im just scared of anything italian...expensive & bad tempered.

Is it a lemon or a goer ?





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Old 11-24-2004, 05:54 AM   #2
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Goer!!! Race built, high-end no BS bikes!! VOR gets much better support in Europe than here in the states but it is a champions machine! Ready to race out-of-the-box!! The early models ('00-'02 I think) had some small issues that VOR covered and I believe that the early units did not use an oil pump .


Anyway, if there was a dealer near me I'd buy it!
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Old 11-24-2004, 06:47 AM   #3
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VERY COOL BIKE!
I think they are a little high strung. It seems to depend on the rider on wether or not they are reliable.

A VERY fast AA rider I know couldn't finish a race on one (but he was always leading before it broke).

Another guy I kind of know (mostly a trail rider), this is more second hand, has had pretty good luck with his.

They were both Enduro models and both guys are very meticulous about there maintenance.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:31 AM   #4
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I thought you meant one of these


But that does look like a sharp little bike.
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Old 11-24-2004, 07:55 AM   #5
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I thought you meant one of these
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Old 11-24-2004, 08:15 AM   #6
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Can'r remember which came first, Vertemati or VOR - one is a "development" of the other after a buyout?

Top quality bikes with quality kit but possibly lacking a decent dealer network?
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Old 11-24-2004, 09:07 AM   #7
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Vertemati came first, then VOR.
VOR are very good bikes, but as said earlier, race bikes. They demand a lot of maintenance as they have no oil pump and require new oil every 500 km (yes... no typo).

Apart from that they're bloody trick. I had the luck to ride a SM503 once and that thing was amazing!
Very nice bike but don't get one if you're not into maintenance intervals regularly. Also getting parts might be very tough in the US, even in Europe it's hard to get what you need.
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Old 11-24-2004, 12:09 PM   #8
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There you go...i thought they were a new european show pony. Hell for a piston that big they have a small tank...made for a track not an enduro loop i assume.

So Qman...i cant find one single bit of info on the net. How do they get the oil up to the the top of the motor without an oil pump ?

Mate said they are becoming popular fast here.
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Old 11-24-2004, 12:54 PM   #9
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It doesn't use oil pump... I don't know how to translate it correctly but it lubricates by eh... using crank pressure as oil pump. It's hard to explain but they haven't got an oil pump. Engine off = no lubrication.
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Old 11-24-2004, 01:21 PM   #10
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Not sure if this applies to VOR but I've heard of some european 4 stroke top ends being lubricated using crank case pressure? Piston descends, pressurises the cases & oil is blown up the cam chain tunnel via a one way (reed?) valve.

I think it's the lack of an oil pump & drive that allows the crank cases to remain sm, sometimes no biger than a 2 stoke engine.
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Old 11-24-2004, 02:09 PM   #11
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Enduro versions have oil pump and MX doesn't. Half the fuel tank is under the seat. The '02 530's had main bearing issues all rectified by Vor. Nice bikes, friend has 450en.
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Old 11-24-2004, 04:02 PM   #12
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MAN! That's a cool bike!

Just had to say it.

The Vertemati's are even cooler (is that a word)! Especially the older ones, they had a machined swingarm, TONS of Billet aluminum parts, VERY sexy!
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Old 11-25-2004, 05:12 AM   #13
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It doesn't use oil pump... I don't know how to translate it correctly but it lubricates by eh... using crank pressure as oil pump. It's hard to explain but they haven't got an oil pump. Engine off = no lubrication.
All my vehicles don't have any lubrication when the engine is off.
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Old 11-25-2004, 05:21 AM   #14
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Erm ok whatever it uses crank pressure as said earlier...

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Enduro versions have oil pump and MX doesn't
True but the early VOR 503SM did not have an oil pump, as did the early 503 Enduro etc...
Kickstarter is right side of the engine and you had to kick towards the handlebar, not towards the rear swingarm.
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Old 11-25-2004, 12:16 PM   #15
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Kickstarter is right side of the engine and you had to kick towards the handlebar, not towards the rear swingarm.
Jesus

What a mess that would be on a steep greasy hill.
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