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Old 10-08-2010, 12:45 PM   #511
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HA! - Lived in Taos for 3 years - still sounds as sketchy as ever (world-class skiing when they get snow)


That piece going to Angle Fire (the 'Enchanted Circle) we called the 'HAUNTED Circle' as tons of people just go from saloon to saloon and then crash their vehicle - DANGER!
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:00 PM   #512
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I learned all kinds of stuff from the internets - did you know that Trinidad, Colorado
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ďThe Sex Change Capital of the World?Ē
Note to self: Do NOT tell people that youíre ďtaking a trip to Trinidad.Ē







Yea i had to cement a well up in Trinidad when i was working for halliburton, i also learned to never ever ever try to pick up chicks at the bar! (insert witty crocodile dundee crossdresser greetings scene here)
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Old 10-08-2010, 02:41 PM   #513
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Could you have done this trip using just norm and no netbook?
Hey Xymo - sorry to be a pusher.
For a long trip like this, No - we really needed Frankenslime. But, we were using at least 4 separate sets of tracks (PCQ, OBCDR, CDT, TAT).
When we did our 4 day PCQ do-over, we only brought Norm and he was just fine.
Maybe matt will add his thoughts?

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Tell BigWan that being able to pilot that loaded school bus two up on those "roads' impresses this old rider very much ! And you are a very good "kid on that bus" also.
Hi Gramp-Z - Aww. thank you! I try and be a good kid!


kid on a bus? thatís a great idea...
Now I can use this video!





Not only do I wish I could ride the bus with a goat,
I also wish we lived in a place where stories like this make it on the evening news!
All we get here are murders and bad news...

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For future reference, here is a guide to naming subdivisions in Colorado. You can't go wrong, just
randomly select one word from each column.
haha, thanks Elmer_C - I wondered how they came up with those!

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HA! - Lived in Taos for 3 years - still sounds as sketchy as ever
Hiya wachs - 3 years in Taos! I didnít want to kill the manly vibe of your Anti-Cow report, but that ride looked super fun! I love the lost coast and stonyford.

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i also learned to never ever ever try to pick up chicks at the bar!
Oh really?
Learned the hard way?



Day 25: 7/31/10 Trinidad, CO Lay Day - zero miles.


The forecast called for more heavy rain, so we decided to take a day off.
It was about time for some laundry again.
Our gear gets so gross - sweating in our jackets and riding pants, day in day out...itís rough.

We washed them in the bathtub and I did some sink laundry for the rest of our clothing.

Looking at our luggage, it doesnít seem like we were packing light, but for 2 people, we tried! BigWan's clothes are just...Big.

We each had 2 shirts, 3 pair of underwear and 3 pair of socks.
A few extras, like long underwear, bathing suits and convertible pants (with zip off legs) added bulk and weight -
but 42 days is a long time! Itís nice to get out of the gear occasionally.



It was also time for haircuts.
It had been 3.5 weeks and my hair was driving me crazy.
We both had permanent helmet hair with ridges.
The easiest thing was to buy cheap clippers at Walmart and do it ourselves.
Two haircuts, 10 bucks.




I tried to get matt to do before and after pics with me, but he wouldnít play.
Between the bad weather and the problems loading tracks with sucky Topo 9, he was grumpy.

(it wasnít Normís fault. Our dell 10v was running windows XP and Topo 9 was new and fíing up.
Those problems were resolved once we got home and installed windows 7).


Here we go.
Before



After




Haha, looking at these, I can hardly see the difference.
Oh well. It FELT a lot better.
Those cheap clippers did such a great job, we decided to mail them home.


Last year, our room at the Trailís End had a cozy, rustic bathroom (room 14)




This year, it was far from charming (see haircut pictures). Avoid Room 19.

My shirt looks dirty in those photos, but it was all the spots on the mirror.
Iím hoping that they were just from my splashy sink laundry...


Okay, I gotta go work on the photos for the start of the TAT!



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Old 10-08-2010, 02:53 PM   #514
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Hiya wachs - 3 years in Taos! I didnít want to kill the manly vibe of your Anti-Cow report, but that ride looked super fun! I love the lost coast and stonyford.

That's good - my wife called it an 'Ego-Man-Fest'.



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Old 10-08-2010, 03:29 PM   #515
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hey, that reminds me - if you’re in the market for a PN-60 (like Norm). They are on sale at REI! $290 is an amazing price!
What a bargain!

Xymo! Do you hear that? I think one's calling your name...
Oh, it's Norma, your new girlfriend!



I'm off to pick one up tonight.

LittleWAN, a reviewer on this unit said that his stopped working when a few drops of rain hit the keypad. The specs say waterproof when submerged 1M for 30 minutes. You hit lots of rain, did you have any issues?
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Old 10-08-2010, 04:49 PM   #516
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I'm off to pick one up tonight.

LittleWAN, a reviewer on this unit said that his stopped working when a few drops of rain hit the keypad. The specs say waterproof when submerged 1M for 30 minutes. You hit lots of rain, did you have any issues?
Hi Moraflex,
Nope, no problems with rain. We had some pretty good downpours, too.
And, don't tell anyone, but...I also dropped Norm on his head (onto concrete) when we were in Steamboat Springs!
He was in BigWan's helmet and I didn't know.
No harm, no foul.


Seems like a pretty sturdy unit to me!
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:01 PM   #517
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I did have some questions regarding norm though: Could you have done this trip using just norm and no netbook?
Hey Xymotic,
Now that I'm used to using Topo 9 and Delorme in general, I'm confident that we could do a trip of this length without the need for a netbook. It would mean lots and lots of prep work, though.
To be honest I didn't really look at the tracks for the CDT or TAT before we left. I was pretty focused on Oregon. Using a 16gb SD card you can upload all the tracks and routes you could ever want.

Make spending hours and hours doing prep work your favorite.
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Old 10-08-2010, 06:52 PM   #518
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Hey Xymotic,
Now that I'm used to using Topo 9 and Delorme in general, I'm confident that we could do a trip of this length without the need for a netbook. It would mean lots and lots of prep work, though.
To be honest I didn't really look at the tracks for the CDT or TAT before we left. I was pretty focused on Oregon. Using a 16gb SD card you can upload all the tracks and routes you could ever want.

Make spending hours and hours doing prep work your favorite.
Thanks BigWan, That's kinda what I wanted. I want to be able to throw a gpx on a card in a coffee shop or friends house and just follow the track. Can the unit itself do stuff like that? Convert a track into a route, reverse the direction of a route, re-route on the fly etc? All stuff that my nuvi will absolutely not do.

Looking at the specs, it says '# No finite limitations on the quantities of each that can be saved to internal memory
# õ In addition, all can be saved to and retrieved from SD cards

That makes me happy Is it true!? Can I like save the current track to the card and call it whatever I want? etc

And the only other thing that might be a deal breaker, does Delorme record the time in the track so I can geotag pictures?
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:12 PM   #519
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Not only do I wish I could ride the bus with a goat,
I also wish we lived in a place where stories like this make it on the evening news!
All we get here are murders and bad news...


LW, that goat story comes from Mahoning County, which is where the city of Youngstown, OH resides. Western Reserve is a bit out in the sticks, but even still, Youngstown is a cesspool and 99.99% of the news in that city IS murders and bad news. I had the misfortune of living there for about 7 years.

cute story though...
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Old 10-08-2010, 07:46 PM   #520
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Hey Xymo - I'll send BigWan your way when he gets home...

Hi sion, bummer! crap, does every place suck? oh well.




Day 26: 8/1/10 Trinidad, CO to Salida, CO 226 miles



We got up at 6am and took our time getting ready. We totally forgot to charge the helmets last night. idiots!
Breakfast at McDís with the local pirates (found an outlet for the helmets), and then on the trail.






I guess a year isnít very long, but we were surprised at how much of the road looked familiar.




















Throughout the day, we could see where parts of the road had been washed out by the heavy rain of the last couple days.

There were lots of wet silty areas, but the road was still ridable.
It must have been a real mess yesterday morning!
I think some of the worst stuff was near CR 320. No pics.
(matt said the washouts wouldnít photograph very well)


I took this same photo last year.
Regular went up 20 cents a gallon, diesel is up 50 cents a gallon!













Cute little cloud...







Oh, I remember this church...














Saw a little more mud, but it wasnít bad.






I love how fluffy and fake these clouds look!





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Old 10-08-2010, 08:49 PM   #521
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Thanks BigWan, That's kinda what I wanted. I want to be able to throw a gpx on a card in a coffee shop or friends house and just follow the track. Can the unit itself do stuff like that? Convert a track into a route, reverse the direction of a route, re-route on the fly etc? All stuff that my nuvi will absolutely not do.

Looking at the specs, it says '# No finite limitations on the quantities of each that can be saved to internal memory
# › In addition, all can be saved to and retrieved from SD cards

That makes me happy Is it true!? Can I like save the current track to the card and call it whatever I want? etc

And the only other thing that might be a deal breaker, does Delorme record the time in the track so I can geotag pictures?
Convert a track into a route - yes
Reverse the direction of a route - yes. perfectly. easily.
Re-route on the fly - yes.
There are no limits (except the amount of memory). Tracks use nothing.
Everything can be saved to SD cards - yes.

yes, you can save a track to the card and call it what you want.

Not only does the Delorme record the time in the track, it saves ALL KINDS of info - altitude, course, speed, trail name...

Kel picked a day and a place and I could tell her what forest we were in, what road we turned on to, what zip code that was in, how fast we were going at that moment, what our course (true) was...
Everything but what we had for breakfast.

It seems to record that info very frequently - every 100' or so.

The main drawback seems to be the learning curve. You have to be willing to invest some time into how everything works.
I'm sure I still don't know half the things Norm is capable of...


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Old 10-08-2010, 10:31 PM   #522
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Convert a track into a route - yes
Reverse the direction of a route - yes. perfectly. easily.
Re-route on the fly - yes.
There are no limits (except the amount of memory). Tracks use nothing.
Everything can be saved to SD cards - yes.

yes, you can save a track to the card and call it what you want.

Not only does the Delorme record the time in the track, it saves ALL KINDS of info - altitude, course, speed, trail name...

Kel picked a day and a place and I could tell her what forest we were in, what road we turned on to, what zip code that was in, how fast we were going at that moment, what our course (true) was...
Everything but what we had for breakfast.

It seems to record that info very frequently - every 100' or so.

The main drawback seems to be the learning curve. You have to be willing to invest some time into how everything works.
I'm sure I still don't know half the things Norm is capable of...
the other thing that you can do to do a big trip like this without carrying a laptop/netbook with you, that helps the trip out immensely is to load the topo information onto separate SD cards. the only downside is that norm's internal is only 4gb. (there is a SuperNorm, who has 16gb internal, but i think it's a waste of money considering since SD memory is so cheap) norm doesn't care where the information comes from, internal or cards. when i had my own norm, i was able to load topo from northern-cali to utah (in region groups, straight across) direct from the included (INCLUDED, no purchase!) DVD's (that include all of north america!) onto norm's internal memory, as well as have space left over on the internal drive for saving tracks.

if i was planning on doing BigWan & LittleWan's uber-route, i'd put the first half of the trip's topo & routes on one 16gb card, and the Topo & routes for the TAT on another. i'd leave the internal memory for basic base-maps, and saving tracks. at the switch point, switch 16bg cards, that's it! then you'd have the whole trip without having a netbook.

the big preparation time that BigWan is talking about is creating the routes to follow using Topo9 before you leave, including waypoints, alternates, gas stops, whatnot... and exporting said data to the device, or to MicroSD cards. it's a painful and painstaking process if you're not used to topo9, but it gets easier the more you use it.


i don't know if that helps or confuses things. :) i only returned my norm so that i can get the norm+spot when i get around to it... i enjoyed norm & topo9 for the time i had it, even if it wasn't really working properly at the time.


sorry for the diversion!


LittleWan - congrats on making it to the TAT section of your report! keep it coming!

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i don't know if that helps or confuses things. :)
Thanks everyone for the Normlightenment. It really does seem like the one for me. Now I just gotta decide if sending sat text messages is worth $350
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Old 10-09-2010, 09:03 AM   #524
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Thanks everyone for the Normlightenment. It really does seem like the one for me. Now I just gotta decide if sending sat text messages is worth $350
Oh, don't forget to include the extra $162 a year for the spot services (that's what we pay for service, tracking and rescue benefits). The privilege of sending text messages is an additional $30-50, so about $212 a year for SPOT + Norm. SPorm?
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LittleWan - congrats on making it to the TAT section of your report!
Hi kaia - thanks! Sorry your Norm didn't work out...




Okay, if you boys are done with your GPS talk...
(Just kidding - thanks for the info!)
(and thanks to BigWan for cutting out the middleman)



Day 26 continued...


Wow, isnít it 3D?
My crap photos donít blow up very well, but here you go...
I love capturing a moment on a ride...






Another gorgeous Colorado day.













We got gas in Westcliffe and ate lunch at Subway.
BigWan found an outlet for the helmets (it's over near the bathrooms), so we were pretty stoked.



















We had so much fun on this road.
I remember being really happy right here.














This was a pretty spot.






Last year, we liked this area a lot.
Weíre always talking what we want to do when we grow up, and where we want to live.
BigWan likes to stop and look at real estate flyers.
Nope, canít afford this one!






Itís still fun to look.






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Itís still fun to look.
just think about all the perfect riding spots & private single track you could create on 35 acres! you know you want it!
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