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Old 10-12-2010, 07:46 PM   #571
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Makes you want to go LIVE in Colorado. !!
Hey Phreaky Phil, I didn't promise to return home. Unlike you however; I have no good excuse for not riding up there. I'm only a days ride away.
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Old 10-12-2010, 08:43 PM   #572
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I am still in awe of Matt's motorcycle prowess!
Oh, it's not that. You're so nice, but you don't have to try and make me feel better!

It's just that last year we screwed up and missed stuff (the black diamond part of the paiute trail, for example),
and this time we were trying to remedy those mistakes.
But, instead it seems like we just added to the list of things to re-do next time.
Oh well. We're dumbasses.





I guess I didn't catch on, reading your RR, because I fixated on your comment about entering from 550 and I thought we had entered from 550.
Now all the rock stuff makes more sense!
Again, d'oh...



Stupidity giveth,
Stupidity taketh away.

BigWan and I didnít do much planning for this trip.
That allowed us to be open to finding new things (Owl Creek Pass), and also made us miss some good stuff (the true beginning for Engineer Pass).

That's just the way we travel, I don't know why I'm always surprised.
Oh well.


I hope you people who are reading this and planning a big trip of your own, learn from our many mistakes!


EnderTheX and Child did an awesome job of researching and planning (and documenting their Colorado ride with gorgeous, hi quality photos).
Read their super-organized and engineer-y Pass summary/ratings guide, here: TFLCMPoaF800GSa640A.

And, don't forget Geek's guide to Colorado, too!



Day 28 continued...



Entering from Silverton...























































Crap, thereís the Animas Forks sign...













Ah, no matter what - I love these passes!





Even when theyíre muddy.




















Itís weird to look down on the fog...













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Old 10-12-2010, 08:50 PM   #573
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The road to Marshall Pass was scenic, but dull. So flat and perfectly smooth!
We passed a Prius that was doing about 45 mph
A freaking Prius!
Again, where's the adventure in that??

Marshall Pass is an old railroad bed, so the grade had to be constant and very mild. It's not much of a test.

When we were out there a couple years ago we ran into this guy.
He said he had an 8 mile range with that Wheelchair. I appreciated his efforts.
From Camping with LDW


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Old 10-12-2010, 09:05 PM   #574
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I'm enjoying Day 28. Geek lead a small group of us over Cinnamon and Ophir over Labor Day weekend. It's nice to reminisce over your pictures. That, so far, is one of my favorite rides. I the San Juans.

And we took Owl Pass home. That sure was a nice little surprise.

We had very different weather.
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Old 10-12-2010, 09:49 PM   #575
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Marshall Pass is an old railroad bed, so the grade had to be constant and very mild. It's not much of a test.

When we were out there a couple years ago we ran into this guy.
He said he had an 8 mile range with that Wheelchair. I appreciated his efforts.
From Camping with LDW
Hey Ratman,
It's great to see a guy in a wheelchair out there getting dirty, I only hope he wasn't too bored on Marshall.

I'm not sure if you remember me, I was riding with you at Death Valley Daze when you had your incident. I was on my orange 950.
Hope your recovery went well.

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Old 10-12-2010, 10:15 PM   #576
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ooooooh man!!!

I've been lurking till now. I'm super excited to see your exploits through the passes we took. I was just telling my dad about you and bigwan tackling some of the same stuff Oliver and I took two up on the 950. He has a hard time figuring out how I throw my 640 around trials, 2 up on that 950 takes some teamwork and skill (and probably a little stupidity )!

Of course you ARE cheating; as Bigwan appears to be a 10 foot tall, 800 pound giant gorilla of a man. I too can make matchbox cars go up mountains with ease...
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Old 10-12-2010, 10:54 PM   #577
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OMG i love riding those passes, i was just up there 4th of july weekend, it was crazy i tell you. BTW Uncompahgre ive always heard pronounced "un-come-pod-ray". Of coarse were all dumb rednecks around here, could be wrong. Also you could have taken lakecity over engineer or cinnamon pass into silverton over blackbear into tohelluride, imogene to ouray, back over red mountain pass. thats what i want to do any ways. Im loving the pictures, lovin the RR!
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Old 10-13-2010, 04:44 AM   #578
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LittleWan (and BigWan) I'm really enjoying this RR.

BigWan - how would you rate LittleWan as a pillion on a scale of 1 - 10? Im guessing it'll be right up there. Sounds like you are a great combination but lets here it from you (LittleWan has been doing most of the talking in this great RR).

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Old 10-13-2010, 07:11 AM   #579
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BigWan - how would you rate LittleWan as a pillion on a scale of 1 - 10?
That is a bit of a loaded question isn't it? If I had to rate Littlewan it would be on a scale of 1 to Kelly (remember we're married ).
Seriously though she loves riding in the dirt especially rocks (mud and sand, not so much). I've seen some of those 90 to 105# pillion models out there. They are probably easier to ride with in the tight stuff, however when the fit hits the shan who's going lift that beast off your chest?
Long story short, Kelly is a 10 IMHO and she really believes this ADVenture riding thing is fun.
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Old 10-13-2010, 07:16 AM   #580
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I also am in awe of Bigwan's riding skills,

To muscle that big bike around and do it two up on those passes, all I can say is...

P.S. I love Colorado
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:15 AM   #581
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Hey Ratman,

I'm not sure if you remember me, I was riding with you at Death Valley Daze when you had your incident. I was on my orange 950.
Hope your recovery went well.

Matt
Sure Matt, I remember you.....although I was a little busy that day. And as far as the broke leg goes, I'm up and running....with a bit of new respect for the elements.

I'm enjoying the hell out of LW's RR. She is quite a personality, and pillion. Thanks LW.

And you are doing a hell of a job piloting that beast. I'm not much of a fan of expensive dualsport bikes, but last year I had a chance to ride pillion on one of the big KTM as he rescued me from a dead battery situation.
I came away from that ride with new respect for orange. I could feel the lightness, and the power........very nice.
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Old 10-13-2010, 08:59 AM   #582
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Thanks for the pic, Ratman! That's so much better than rolling around in a shopping mall!
P.S. I'm glad you're enjoying the RR!

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We had very different weather.
Hi Tweetie - wow, you had wonderful weather! Oh, Cinnamon is coming up on day 29. I love the San Juans, too. Again, you and Geek are so lucky!!


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Of course you ARE cheating...
Hey Chris - nice to see you! Yeah, we do have an unfair advantage - Mattís 6í2Ē and 300 lbs. But, he only has a 31.5Ē inseam.
Weíre actually on a 990S this year (the 950 was last year) and itís a tall bike.
seat height: 36"
ground clearance: 12.4"
suspension travel: 10.4"

By himself, on an unloaded bike, Matt has to tippy toe.
Of course, with me and luggage, those springs get pretty compressed... Ahem.



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BTW Uncompahgre ive always heard pronounced "un-come-pod-ray".
Thanks, zeroblah! Oh, we tried to stretch the riding out over 3 days, keeping the rides short to avoid being up on passes during the storms. Iím terrified of lightning.
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LittleWan (and BigWan) I'm really enjoying this RR.
Hi ThinkMike!
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P.S. I love Colorado
Redog, colorado is incredible, isnít it? Hope you and Lionsroaar had a great time.



Thanks for the love, you guys!
Itís so great to be able to share this trip with folks who actually get whatís fun about bashing around in the rocks, plowing through the sand, and sliding in the mud.

And if some fat, dumb, middle-aged couple can do it - so can you!





Day 28 continued...









I love those splashes of orange!







A smidge of blue sky!






Almost rode right past the sign...
Yep, here we are - Engineer Pass.
(hee, my engineer father tried so hard to make me into one. Obviously, that didn't take.
matt has the Knack, but not the mathletic abilities.
So, there's envy in our laughter! )





What are all those little dots?






Oh, sheep!





We were there for Sheep Day.
Of course we didnít know it at the time.
Itís okay. I heard later that people were eating lamb, too.
I prefer live sheep.














hee! that face!















Wow, that's pretty.





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Old 10-13-2010, 09:00 AM   #583
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That is a bit of a loaded question isn't it? If I had to rate Littlewan it would be on a scale of 1 to Kelly (remember we're married ).
Seriously though she loves riding in the dirt especially rocks (mud and sand, not so much). I've seen some of those 90 to 105# pillion models out there. They are probably easier to ride with in the tight stuff, however when the fit hits the shan who's going lift that beast off your chest?
Long story short, Kelly is a 10 IMHO and she really believes this ADVenture riding thing is fun.
Haha - yes it was 100% loaded. The reason I asked you, my wife is great on the back, knows when to jump onto the pegs without being asked, good in technical stuff blah blah blah, but she only gets 8 outta 10. How should I put this? What I sometimes see as an exiting challenging section, she sees fear factor extreme. I often experience a stabbing pain in my right rear rib cage.

So I am going to get her to read this RR to see the endless examples of how much fun it should be for rider and Pillion!!!!

LittleWan you are a star and set the standard for all Pillion Spouses!
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Old 10-13-2010, 10:35 AM   #584
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Aww, thanks, ThinkMike. Your wife is probably going to hate me now.
Sorry, Mrs.TMike!


Seriously, though - have you wrecked, 2up?
I donít know if you read last yearís RR, but I was in pain for the 2nd half of the trip, genuine pain for the last couple days.
After Lakeview, Oregon, every bump made my ribs scream.
On top of that, it took 4.5 months to heal up. I could barely dress myself for a while.
And those werenít even big crashes.
Your wife has good reason to be afraid - it's dangerous!


I joke about being stupid, but you really do have to be able to make peace with the risks.
I am an absolute scaredy cat. Iím afraid of everything.
I spend the first several minutes of every ride (up to 10 minutes if itís been a long time), picturing the worst possible accident -
with one or both of us mangled up/crippled/dead. I totally freak myself out.
Then, I take a deep breath, shake it off and hope that today wonít be THE day.
Itís difficult, especially as a passenger with virtually no control over the ride.


It helps to have total faith in the driver, too.
Matt and I have been together for 19 years. I trust him completely.

Maybe more seat time together will help?
Whatever you do, donít harangue her and try and shame her into being a better pillion - that will get you nothing but resentment!
You need to build up her confidence and earn her trust, I think thatís the best way to help her enjoy the scary challenging (and super fun) sections.
Also, remind her that it's probably a lot safer in the dirt than it is on the highway...

And, if that doesnít work, I offer my earlier suggestion again (post #73)
Get her one of these...



Good luck!



Day 28 continued...


Does Heidi live here?




Or here?
This one is for sale. Just reduced to $649,000!
ďIn honor of Henry David ThoreauĒ




























Even though the fall colors are pretty, I love Colorado in late July/early August.
You get a lot of summer storms, but everything is bright green and the waterfalls are going strong.


























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Old 10-13-2010, 11:48 AM   #585
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Totally agree...

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This one looks like a painting!

Like an Albert Bierstadt painting.

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