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Old 09-05-2011, 02:43 PM   #511
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I had an idea there was a difference between kick and lecky start models and lecky start only models. Something to do with making them easier to light up with the kick starter
That was like a subset within a subset. Something about having a delayed 'switch off' function to protect the coil from too much heat where the ignition is turned on but the engine isn't firing. There was a good discussion in UKGSer a while ago. Different part nos between ICU for kick start & non kick start bike.
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Old 09-05-2011, 06:03 PM   #512
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Cold Kiwi, Old Whangamomona Rd, & The 42 Traverse

I have been to uncounted Cold Kiwis. Usually it’s an excuse to catch up with older friends & acquaintances that I don’t see from year to year. However every year less & less of these friends are prepared to make the trek (old bones, common sense, cold ground, & drunken idiots revving the tits off bikes at 4.00am are not necessarily a great mix).

Last year I combined it with a ride with Mark_S & Co. This year Bart was keen to do the rally, & Mark_S was just keen for a ride. We thought we’d check out the Old Whangamomona Rd & 42nd Traverse again while we were there.

I met with Mark_S at Waikanae after 8.00am & Bart at Ashhurst, rode thru' Vinegar Hill thru to Hunterville for coffee. GuzziTony & Chris were supposed to catch us there – I understand they made it 10 mins after we left.

Took the gravel option – Turakina Valley Rd to the Rally site, trying to mix some good riding with arriving at the site earlyish.







The rally site itself is near Tangiwai, between Waiouru & Ohakune.



Couldn’t find EddieB, but had an idea where they might be, so set up the tents in the general vicinity, then strolled around the site & checked out some of the events & the more unusual bikes. These included a couple of Guzzis, one with two jerry cans set up as a fuel tank, a brass tank shell instruments, capped exhaust openings (like a truck) etc. Didn’t get a photo – hopefully Bart did.





Some of the other bikes in camp that caught my eye. Both of the BMWs are from R75/5 bases.






Here's a You Tube Video Shewolf took of the forest section of the site, where EddieB, ClintNZ, Rosie, Shewolf, NZNic, 5150 etc camped. We were just behind this. It also shows the 'road' in. A bunch of the road bikes struggle with this every year, especially if its wet. When it's regravelled just prior to each Kiwi, they tend to use river gravel.



EddieB, NZNic, ClintNZ, Rosie, & Shewolf made it back to camp before dark, & we settled in for a convivial evening. The camp had a nice brazier, gas light, & chairs, and was under the trees. Bart made a discovery that Mr Chips containers don't hold whisky & water particularly well. Bed at around 11.30 pm, feeling little pain.





I woke mid way thru the night. My feet felt cold. Turns out the Camelbak had leaked at the bottom of the tent, soaking my helmet lining, gloves, sleeping pad, & was making my sleeping bag damp.

We were to met Mark_S at Taumaranui at 10.00am, but a big breakfast at Ohakune took precedence, & then dropping off gear at the Taumaranui Holiday Park, so I don’t think we made the rendezvous until 45 minutes later.

Off to Whangamomona. Poster boards along the roads told us ‘Public Roads are not racetracks’ or some such drivel.





The expected hordes of Harley riders at the Pub weren’t evident, but we didn’t stop too long – just long enough to quaff a coke & drop tyre pressures.

Old Whangamomona Rd is a non publicly maintained paper road between Whangamomona & the ‘Bridge To Somewhere’. The first portion has been upgraded somewhat to accommodate trucks for an oil exploration. After that it varies between Farm Track & rough 4WD track. I understand that the local 4WD club do some maintenance from time to time to keep it basically passable – sort of. It has a couple of tunnels in the first section. One has a punga corduroy road exit – without those it’d be a bog.





There are a number of places where 4WDs have created huge ruts, and you need to pick your line carefully, both to be able to get thru, and also so that you don’t belly the bike out. Bart was successful at leading Mark_S into one of those tank traps. It is a lot deeper that it looks, & the only remedy was to drag the bike across into a smaller rut. It took 3 of us to do so.









We got passed by a gaggle of trail bikes going the other way. A couple stopped to chat. One fella was disbelieving that I'd try to take Gus thru. I think he thought I was a hallucination caused by whatever it was that he'd been smoking...

The road generally follows the Whangamomona River, & in places slips have taken the road away, & a new section has been bulldozed, or created over the slips.





I managed to get Gus stuck in one of the last bogs. I wasn’t even going to attempt it, but was encouraged by the interest of a rather large bull behind me. I also fell off a couple of times, negotiating the bogs on the way back to the pub – tiredness & a lack of balance & boot traction at critical times were the primary causes.



I have to say the road was just about perfect for us this time - quite challenging, but not impassable.



On the way back, we were somewhat flummoxed to see two hard ridden quads go past. Both had a male rider, a female pillion, & on the first a young child squashed between. The second completely muffed the ruts that Mark_S had gotten stuck on & crashed. I was shocked to see what I thought was a sweatshirt was a toddler, who unsurprisingly came off worst in the crash. We helped the guy right the quad, & off they went again - not slowing much if at all. I suppose they were working on the station, & were coming back from a sunday beer or three...



The Bikes were fairly well encased on mud. Mark_S didn’t even try the patience of Penny by attempting to enter the pub. They were happy to serve us thru a window.

Rode back into Taumaranui after dark. Takeaways for dinner, then retired early for the night.
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Old 09-05-2011, 06:50 PM   #513
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Cold Kiwi, Old Whanga Rd & the 42 Traverse (cont'd)

Bart unfortunately wasn’t able to stay for the 42nd Traverse ride, & buggered off home early Monday.

I was late (unfortunate recurrent theme this trip) meeting Mark_S. Out onto the 42nd about 10.00am. Mark_S had done this after splitting from us Saturday, & had commented that it was a little rougher in places than usual.

I have to say that the 42nd is one of my 'happy places'.

Fell off at the rock wall. Came too far left, lost traction in the loose stuff, didn't have enough momentum. Then the bike slid backwards & I lost an indicator. Looking down the rock wall..



Yes that is a stream of oil following Gus, not water.



It seems that I hadn't fully tightened the oil cooler banjo at last service, & the cold stream crossing was the final straw, so it started leaking. Fortunately I spotted it in time. Looks like I lost about 1/2 a litre.





Made it to Ohakune by just after 3.00, just in time to see the Coffee Shop closing. Damn. I really needed a coffee to restore energy levels.

Mark_S led us down a sideroad on the way to Taihape, a mix of tight gravel & sealed road. Sorry to say I wasn't really in the mood for it by then. Made it to Taihape by 4.00pm, straight to MacDonalds - Kiwiburger, washed down by a Macca's Latte, tanked up. Amazing what food does for your energy levels & head space.

Took the Mangaweka - Rangiwahea - Cheltenham option on the way home, grouse road, sunstrike was an issue at times, beautiful sunset, home by 8.00pm.

Man, I'm moving like an old fella today. Fortunately I planned ahead & took the day (Tuesday) off. Punting round an elderly fat Beemer can take it out of a fella.

Quotes from the weekend ....'Embrace The Ruts'..&.'I am an Enduro King...'. No - really. Picture Richard Hammond driving the Bowler Truck from Top Gear a few years ago..Not something you really believe, but at that place, & at that time, a feeling of...

Will have to change a left head gasket shortly. It's seeped ever since I fixed the valve clearance adjusters - when I needed to let tension off 4 studs to gain access. This ride it was keeping the leather on my oiled boots supple.
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Old 09-05-2011, 09:08 PM   #514
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I have to say that the 42nd is one of my 'happy places'.
+1, looking farward to getting back there again, and Old Whanga road.

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Man, I'm moving like an old fella today.

An elder fat fella punting round a Beemer....
I felt a bit like that yesterday after doing a pretty muddy North Range Road both ways loaded with luggage. Need to work on my fitness more I think.

Nice RR, I posted some pics of that Guzzi up on FB https://www.facebook.com/#!/media/se...3774891&type=1
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Old 09-06-2011, 01:20 AM   #515
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Man, I'm moving like an old fella today. An elderly fat fella punting round a Beemer....
Harsh...Harsh, but true . You're right. I need to work on my fitness too
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Man, I'm moving like an old fella today. Fortunately I planned ahead & took the day (Tuesday) off. Punting round an elderly fat Beemer can take it out of a fella. .
you poor old fella...
some of us had to work a 12hr day on Tuesday....

Didn't you make the rock wall look easy

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Didn't you make the rock wall look easy
I love that video. I've watched it several times now. It makes me look semi-competent. Remember I'd already dropped it there earlier
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Old 09-09-2011, 06:20 PM   #519
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Wee update

Mileage is sitting at 207,452. The Mitas E09's went on at 202,643, so have done at least 4,809 kms - officially the longest lasting tyre I've used since coming over to adventure riding. Still 4mm & 3mm tread depth (dependent on which side of the centre knob is measured). They started at 12mm tread depth.

The reason for the slight question mark on total mileage is that the vapour speedo doesn't always record speeds up to about 70kms - I need to reposition / replace the sensor.

I've just replaced the headlight pilot bulb. The 20w halogen bulb I was using expired a few mths ago (not bad - lasted 20 yrs between the various BMWs I ran it in), so I had dropped in a 3w until I could get a new one. I also dropped the headlight wattage given an expectation I would use that instead of the pilot for day riding.

The new 20w bulb is a Hella YL1220, Halogen 12v 20w BA9S base. Cost circa $12. The advantage of that is that it is bright enough to run as a 'headlight' (meeting legal requirement) but draws less current than the boosted light I use for night riding - a 90/130w. The pilot bulb is helpful for maintaining battery charge (particularly if you use a stock alternator - Padmei) in slow running.

My auto electrician tells me that I can't get 21w bulbs to fit the KTM indicators, whch currently use 10w bulbs with the same bayonet fittings but a smaller glass size. The 21w bulb glass shape is there because of the heat they generate. So that isn't an option.

The right rear indicator I tore off at the Rock Wall (on my failed 1st attempt) just clipped back into place after I removed the lense. I'm liking these KTM indicators more & more. I did need to recrimp on new wiring fittings though.
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Sounds good Nutso. Are you runnning off the stock flasher unit or a different one? I have been plying some more with my indicators today. After scouring the net for small 21w lamps I came to the same conclusion that the size is due to the filament & heat.

i will follow up on that 3w pilot lamp idea. I may wire the led indicator parallel with that & see if it goes out when the 3w lamp does.
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My rear dr indicators are tiny and 21w halogen.
Repco had to order some bulbs in for me but could get them.
I'm running a 10w in the left one at the moment though as it was available off the shelf.
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Sounds good Nutso. Are you runnning off the stock flasher unit or a different one?
Yes, still stock. I dont want the hassle/cost of changing the wiring & the switches if I can find a cheaper workable solution. The Hyperflashes don't worry me particularly (though they may concern the WoF inspector from a technical perspective at some stage)
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i will follow up on that 3w pilot lamp idea. I may wire the led indicator parallel with that & see if it goes out when the 3w lamp does.
Not quite sure what you mean? I'm assuming you are confusing the pilot headlight bulb & alternator exciter circuit bulb?. Different issues. My comment was realy all about draw. The stock alternator doesn't charge / or charge well at low engine speeds. That has an impact in a commute, or where you are travelling slowly (say with the headlight on in technical terrain).
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My rear dr indicators are tiny and 21w halogen. I'm running a 10w in the left one at the moment though as it was available off the shelf.
Not stock DR ones then. Any brand / photo of the indicators & the lights that are run in them?
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What i meant was that I would use the park lite instead of a gen lite on the dash. The park lite would be the exciter part of the circuit & drop off above idle. I would try to see if the Led (used as a gen warning lite) wired inline with this circuit goes off above idle. I don't think leds can work that way - a bit of experimenting tho.

I put a resistor in parallel with the rear left indicator yesterday (I'll check the wattage later & get back) & the flash rate dropped to just a tad below normal. It worked quite well. I made the stupid mistake of handling it to disconnect it - ow ow ow that's hot. If I carried along that path I would have to run some heat resistant wire & mount the resistor under the guard out of harms way.

Unless of course Nordie sources these mysterious 21watt lamps that noone seems to know about (including our local Repco rep who has the same indicators as me & tried to find some 21w lamps too)
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Unless of course Nordie sources these mysterious 21watt lamps that noone seems to know about (including our local Repco rep who has the same indicators as me & tried to find some 21w lamps too)
They guy MyGSXF bought to the xmas party thingy?
He'd had to get some for his bike so knew what ones I was after.

I got a pair or 21W and then blew one and bunged a 10w in. That's why the left blinks a bit quicker than the right...
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Ah Mike? he got them in for his Boule? I might try him on Monday.
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