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Old 09-22-2010, 05:38 PM   #61
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Old 09-22-2010, 06:11 PM   #62
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Follow up on the earlier posting:

The vehicle specialist called me and it looks like the hoops we need to jump through are not in Customs, but in the DOT and EPA (both of which he says that customs acts on behalf of in this process.)

What I've learned is that we would need to get an official letter of compliance from each entity. Basically a permission slip. The specialist tried to down play the feasibility of this, but the explanation he gave seemed to bristle with hope:

Prove compliance to the EPA and DOT, and it can come in.

Now, how much red tape and cost would be encountered is still unknown. I'll be trying to chase that info down, as I now have the correct phone numbers for those agencies. I also have the numbers for at least a few of the necessary forms.

It looks like I'll need at least a bit of sympathy from Yamaha EU or a dealer who is willing to conspire with me to provide the correct and exact data to address each point that will be required to appease the DOT and EPA.

More info as soon as I get it.

It seems that it could be unreasonable to do all of this for one bike. So... hypothesizing using a (totally fictitious) $10,000 "compliance" cost; it would be a premium of $1000 per bike over the sticker price. and I imagine in the neighborhood of $1000 could cover shipping and import duty. How many of you are still interested if we bring 10 at a cost of +/- $12,000? (logistics numbers are totally made up guesses and may or may not hod true to an actual scenario.)
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Old 09-22-2010, 06:20 PM   #63
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It makes no sense that they would bring that lame Super Tenere to the US but not the Tenere. Why? We don't need another overweight so-called dualsport that has no off-road capability. Add it to the ranks of the 950/990, Stelvio, GS1200A and V-Strom adventure touring (read: streetbikes).

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Old 09-22-2010, 06:21 PM   #64
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This is the only problem I forsee.
The riders in Europe like the Tenere cuz it is so cheap compared to the KTM and BMW. This will not be the case in North America I suspect.
I can get a new 690 KTM E for 11 grand CDN. I doubt Yamaha wanna sell their bike for less than that.
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Old 09-22-2010, 06:51 PM   #65
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Well, this is cool,

but I hope it does'nt turn into a marketing trend for the U.S. to get people to pay higher prices for a already existant model in other countries. I do hope the people wanting this model get it though, it is a good looking motorcycle and seems to fill the empty niche. Yamaha is the only one of the big four lacking a 600ish sized adventure/dual sport bike in the U.S..

Before Henry Ford started mass producing automobiles, there were well over a hundred motorcycle manufactuers in the U.S..
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Old 09-22-2010, 08:09 PM   #66
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Follow up on the earlier posting:

The vehicle specialist called me and it looks like the hoops we need to jump through are not in Customs, but in the DOT and EPA (both of which he says that customs acts on behalf of in this process.)

What I've learned is that we would need to get an official letter of compliance from each entity. Basically a permission slip. The specialist tried to down play the feasibility of this, but the explanation he gave seemed to bristle with hope:

Prove compliance to the EPA and DOT, and it can come in.

Now, how much red tape and cost would be encountered is still unknown. I'll be trying to chase that info down, as I now have the correct phone numbers for those agencies. I also have the numbers for at least a few of the necessary forms.

It looks like I'll need at least a bit of sympathy from Yamaha EU or a dealer who is willing to conspire with me to provide the correct and exact data to address each point that will be required to appease the DOT and EPA.

More info as soon as I get it.

It seems that it could be unreasonable to do all of this for one bike. So... hypothesizing using a (totally fictitious) $10,000 "compliance" cost; it would be a premium of $1000 per bike over the sticker price. and I imagine in the neighborhood of $1000 could cover shipping and import duty. How many of you are still interested if we bring 10 at a cost of +/- $12,000? (logistics numbers are totally made up guesses and may or may not hod true to an actual scenario.)
Oh......I have to pay? You want money? I thought these were free? JUST KIDDING!!

I'm ALMOST to this point. I say wait til the Milan Show in November but by March 2011 if nothing happens I think I may go this route. That way hopefully by then we'll have an ABS Tenere option.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:12 AM   #67
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It makes no sense that they would bring that lame Super Tenere to the US but not the Tenere. Why? We don't need another overweight so-called dualsport that has no off-road capability. Add it to the ranks of the 950/990, Stelvio, GS1200A and V-Strom adventure touring (read: streetbikes).

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I think alot of people in other countries believe that EVERYONE here is part of the American stereotype where we only want the biggest and baddest and most fuel guzzling model available. That's the case for MANY Americans but I'd say that there are a good number of us that that's not the case for. This thread is the perfect example.

Hopefully someone high up at Yamaha reads this thread and realizes that America would be the perfect market for this bike.
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Old 09-23-2010, 06:50 AM   #68
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I'm ALMOST to this point. I say wait til the Milan Show in November but by March 2011 if nothing happens I think I may go this route. That way hopefully by then we'll have an ABS Tenere option.

I agree, It's looking more and more like this would be possible, but it would need to involve lawyers and contracts between a group of Tenere fanboys (similar to myself) and a full container of bikes to make it anywhere near being cost effective. *sigh*

I'll keep digging and see if anything hopeful surfaces, but for now, I'll just expect to wait for Yamaha USA to pull their heads out of their asses and take notice of all of us begging to throw money at their company.
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Old 09-23-2010, 10:21 PM   #69
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Well I think we are stirring up something at Yamaha, I just got a customer survey in the mail from when I made my phone call!! So lets get on the phone and start calling if you have not already called and talked to someone at Yamaha!!

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Old 09-24-2010, 09:20 PM   #70
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Old 09-25-2010, 12:20 AM   #71
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Well I think we are stirring up something at Yamaha, I just got a customer survey in the mail from when I made my phone call!! So lets get on the phone and start calling if you have not already called and talked to someone at Yamaha!!

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How about making a printable copy? Will fill that out too and mail it in. What do you guys think? Ben
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:42 PM   #72
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How about making a printable copy? Will fill that out too and mail it in. What do you guys think? Ben
This my not help the US guys, but here's a Canadian Yamaha rep that does respond to my emails (so far anyway): YamahaCustomerRelations@yamaha-motor.ca

So any CDN's that are eyeing this thread, fire off an email. The more interest that we can generate and emails that they can forward to head office...may be, just may be, we can get the 660's here
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:47 PM   #73
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This my not help the US guys, but here's a Canadian Yamaha rep that does respond to my emails (so far anyway): YamahaCustomerRelations@yamaha-motor.ca

So any CDN's that are eyeing this thread, fire off an email. The more interest that we can generate and emails that they can forward to head office...may be, just may be, we can get the 660's here

GO FOR IT!! It's that much closer to the US..... Maybe I'll sneak a peak or a ride....then have to bring one back with me!!
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Old 09-26-2010, 06:54 PM   #74
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Call current ride a red banana then

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I hear they are slow and heavy.

Signed it...
My XR650l is no flyweight....
And besides if the KLR sells then why not the Tenere?

More $$$ yes, and More bike too

The s10 is awesome but does not suit my current riding habits.... The 660 does
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Old 09-26-2010, 07:00 PM   #75
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The s10 is awesome but does not suit my current riding habits.... The 660 does
I think the reality is that if this bike were already here or if it comes here, people would switch!! They would realize that a DO ALL single that's reliable, has a big fuel tank and gets good MPG is what 95% of us really need! Not to forget all the off-road characteristics too!!
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