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Old 10-07-2011, 11:14 AM   #31
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Anyone have a comparison ride between a Tenere VS a G650GS?
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Old 10-07-2011, 11:36 AM   #32
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Tenere with ABS:
-front suspension travel:160mm
-rear suspension travel: 150mm
-seat height: 860mm.

Tenere without ABS(the original!):
-front: 210mm
-rear: 200mm
-seatheight: 895mm.


There you go.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:00 AM   #33
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160/150 suspension in enduro doesn`t make sense at all. I will stay without ABS then.


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Tenere with ABS:
-front suspension travel:160mm
-rear suspension travel: 150mm
-seat height: 860mm.

Tenere without ABS(the original!):
-front: 210mm
-rear: 200mm
-seatheight: 895mm.


There you go.
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Old 10-10-2011, 06:19 AM   #34
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Just like I said: by introducing ABS on the Tenere, they transformed it from a good&allround allroad into a commuter bike.............. What a waste!
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Old 10-18-2011, 02:59 PM   #35
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I guess with the stratospheric seat height and no ABS option...it was too much of a RTW-type niche bike and Yamaha wasn't selling enough of them. Bummer.

Maybe it wouldn't be a big deal to raise it back up (rear linkage and fork springs...I hope)?
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:16 PM   #36
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Just like I said: by introducing ABS on the Tenere, they transformed it from a good&allround allroad into a commuter bike.............. What a waste!
860mm (33.9") seat height and ABS would work great for me. my DR650 has a 34" seat height and i don't want it any taller. it's not FI for does it have ABS...

if i could buy a 660, i would use it w/ hard bags for ADV touring so i don't need massive suspension travel. it's not a dirtbike and it sounds like Yamaha is slotting it better and closer to the 650GS. sounds good to me. if they keep a taller non ABS in the lineup then there is a option for everyone and if you're REALLY serious about dirt on this bike then most seem to add new forks anyway.
what's the problem w/ all that???
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Old 10-18-2011, 03:22 PM   #37
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860mm (33.9") seat height and ABS would work great for me.
if i could buy a 660, i would use it w/ hard bags for ADV touring so i don't need massive suspension travel. it's not a dirtbike and it sounds like Yamaha is slotting it better and closer to the 650GS. sounds good to me. if they keep a taller non ABS in the lineup then there is a option for everyone and if you're REALLY serious about dirt on this bike then most seem to add new forks anyway.
what's the problem w/ that?
Yep, sounds like "Son of Tengai."
My Tengai was the 'streetified' version of a KLR; and I still made it up Radical Hill, etc...
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Old 10-18-2011, 07:52 PM   #38
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860mm (33.9") seat height and ABS would work great for me. my DR650 has a 34" seat height and i don't want it any taller. it's not FI for does it have ABS...

if i could buy a 660, i would use it w/ hard bags for ADV touring so i don't need massive suspension travel. it's not a dirtbike and it sounds like Yamaha is slotting it better and closer to the 650GS. sounds good to me. if they keep a taller non ABS in the lineup then there is a option for everyone and if you're REALLY serious about dirt on this bike then most seem to add new forks anyway.
what's the problem w/ all that???
You got a point there: don't get me wrong, it's still a good bike, but imho it does have more potential with the original suspension heights. So just like in Germany it's good to have a choice to pick a bike to your liking. I myself am not a hardcore offroad rider, but I benefit from the larger suspension(which on mine is upgraded with Hyperpro progressive springs) on my occasional offroad rides, but also on the bad roads(especially in Belgium!)&speedbumps(almost everywhere nowadays!) and when I ride with luggage and panniers(panniers actually most of the time anyway). And for the ABS:never had one on any bikes I had(mostly XT's), but would like it as an option.
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Old 10-19-2011, 10:31 AM   #39
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I bet it would handle better being lower, too. For me at least, this bike would be a interesting contender for a gravel tourer on Swedish roads...for paved use the ABS is a big deal for me. Hmm, something to think about.
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Old 10-20-2011, 02:34 PM   #40
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I believe there are 435 signatures on the petition to bring the XT660Z Tenere to North America as of today.
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Old 11-11-2011, 09:30 PM   #41
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I will say this. I have a new ducati multistrada that will be paid off in February of 2012. I have 100% intention to purchase another bike to have in the garage. If Yamaha does not bring the xT660z over to the USA my money will go to BMW in the shape of a new F800GS. I would prefer the Tenere, but I also want to ride a bike sooner rather than later.

Hear that Yamaha? I have owned numerous Yamahas and loved them all, but I will buy the bmw IF there is no Tenere at my dealers. If there is I will go down there tomorrow and give them money to buy it.

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Old 11-17-2012, 11:31 PM   #42
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Hello there

so it is true, as I read posts from dallastx, here...
I was surprised when I compare non ABS vs ABS version on EU yamaha site... Red letters are differences... You must
scroll down to see suspension, seat heigh and min.ground clearance...
http://www.yamaha-motor.eu/eu/produc...263&pmc=xtz660

______________nonABS___ABS:
Front travel 210 mm 160 mm
Rear Travel 200 mm 145 mm
Overall length 2,246 mm 2,260 mm - they also change length???
Overall height 1,477 mm 1,450 mm
Seat height 896 mm 865 mm
Minimum ground clearance 260 mm 205 mm

Hmm... I hope, we will have a choice to buy non ABS or ABS version here in Slovakia next year 2013
becuase I am going to buy a Tenere in January or February...
For me it is for 100% non-ABS version a choice ..

BTW: I was riding Suzuki VStrom 5 years (75.000kms)

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Old 11-18-2012, 06:57 AM   #43
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with bike racing.
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Old 11-18-2012, 10:05 AM   #44
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I am sorry to read all the posts that Yam USA do not bring xt660z to states... I dont know why...

I've read lot of travel blogs of xt660z riders who travelled all Afriva or Australia and had not any problem
with xt660z so the bike is really good also for extremly riding...

And the price is by my opinion quite good, too...

I am scared, I guess there will be problem to get XT660Z in Europe without ABS, next year...

My yamaha dealer near to me has just last 2 pcs without ABS (y.2011 null kilometers)... Price 7000Eur...
Still thinking what to do. But I will wait a month and will see what will happened next year, i think..
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Old 11-18-2012, 01:32 PM   #45
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yeah it's really crazy Yamaha USA has zero interest in this bike.
660 travelers in the US have even called and asked if the guys in California want to see the bike and they've said no.

the issue is the top people at Yamaha USA are cruisers guys at their core and thus everything else is not a cruiser. their mindset sucks for the ADV crowd. the only thing that will force them to bring in it is the other Japanese 3 have a new similar bike and they sell well. I'd guess which ever Japanese mfg will finally have an updated FI 650 dual-sport in the US will do amazing well in sales.

look at the Husky TR650 Terra. those are getting snapped up at a rapid pace and dealers sell them as fast as they arrive. i'd say BMW is gonna walk all over the Japanese unless they get their heads out of the asses. even though the Terra is heavy, BMW is building what people want. The insult to injury hear is you can buy a 660 Tenere in 'lowly old Mexico' but not in the great US of A.

so for now those who desire Japanese 650 dual-sports in the US buy DR650 or KLR650s and modify them for their needs.
...but watch out, i've been ready about how ex KLR & DR riders have relented and bought the Husky.
the got tired of waiting for Japan Inc. to catch up...and so they story goes on.



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I am sorry to read all the posts that Yam USA do not bring xt660z to states... I dont know why...

I've read lot of travel blogs of xt660z riders who travelled all Afriva or Australia and had not any problem
with xt660z so the bike is really good also for extremly riding...

And the price is by my opinion quite good, too...

I am scared, I guess there will be problem to get XT660Z in Europe without ABS, next year...

My yamaha dealer near to me has just last 2 pcs without ABS (y.2011 null kilometers)... Price 7000Eur...
Still thinking what to do. But I will wait a month and will see what will happened next year, i think..
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